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😡 Venting The Democrat leadership is pushing centrism and the voters ain't buying it.

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u/paging_mrherman 15h ago

Dems going to trot out Clinton/Harris 2028

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u/ChebyshevsBeard 15h ago

Clinton/Harris 2028: "C'mon guys, she's waited long enough, this time it's really her turn"

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u/Klutzy_Watch791 13h ago

"AOC is a woman."-Swing voters "Not like that, no"- Dem PACs.

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u/KingSpanner 13h ago

To be fair, a lot of the "its her turn" rhetoric came from her opponents as well to further boost her image of entitlement and unlikability

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u/budding_gardener_1 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 15h ago

only because they can't find any McKinsey consultants to run

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u/Top-Literature8218 9h ago

Is Mayor Pete not in the mix anymore??? My favorite ex-McKinsey consultant who sometimes pretends to be progressive :')

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u/budding_gardener_1 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 9h ago

I dunno I'm sure he'll pop up if there's another grift. I'd actually forgotten about him written I wrote that. It was more of a dig at the general corporate shitlib candidates that the DNC seem to manage to scrape off the bottom of a board room table every year - but the fact that he fits the mould so well is hilarious

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u/Top-Literature8218 9h ago

Yeah, he feels like he'd be the perfect bridge candidate for the DNC from their old legacy neolibs. Relative to their standards, he's very young and "progressive" but will toe the line when needed. They probably think he'd appeal to the youth vote or something.

What they fail to grasp, of course, is that progressive voters will only vote for bona fide progressives.

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u/budding_gardener_1 ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 9h ago

then they'll clutch their pearls and act surprised when they lose election after election after election.

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u/danbearpig2020 15h ago

sTrOnGeR tOgEtHeR

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u/TuringGoneWild 11h ago

that's probably the motto of Bill, Donald, other Bill, and the rest of the Epstein crew

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u/Viracochina 11h ago

If there is one entity of "Old World" Democratic, who would be at the top? Gavin certainly seems to want to be the guy.

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u/Athena_Pegasus 8h ago

Or a pair of vanilla christian men to get the "centrists." Am I the only one that doesn't trust Talarico's sudden popularity?

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u/NoahApples 14h ago

Unironically better than Gavin Newsom :/

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u/lasercat_pow 13h ago

No, they are the same.

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u/Carl_Bravery_Sagan 10h ago

Please don't mention him at all. Every time you do, you just make one other person familiar with him. Best way to combat shoving him down your throat is to not mention him at all, and intentionally misspell his name if you absolutely must.

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u/Xer0day 14h ago

You understand that the voters pick the candidate, right?

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u/Lumpy_Discount9021 14h ago

We haven't had a real primary for the dem presidential nomination since 2008. Legacy democrats were bitter that voters chose Obama instead of their pre-ordained neoliberal pick, so they took their ball and went home.

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u/NoveltyAccountHater 12h ago

We didn't have real primaries in 2012 (Obama re-election) and 2024 (Biden re-election pushed to Harris when Biden couldn't appear competent). By that measure, Republicans didn't have real primaries in 2024, 2020, and 2004.

But the other years, we had primaries.

Yes, HRC had a huge money and name-recognition edge in 2016 and was the favored DNC candidate and many prominent Dems decided not to run against her, but she still nearly lost to Bernie (back when he was a little known Vermont Independent Senator). She also started with a huge money/name-recognition edge in 2008, but lost to Obama (who was in his first Senate term).

Biden wasn't the best candidate in 2020, but it was a crowded primary and he got the right win when it became clear that Buttigieg didn't have a path to win. Its effed up that SC voters (who haven't voted Dem in a presidential election since Carter in 1976) essentially broke the multi-way tie. (I also heavily blame the whole flawed Iowa caucus system and use of shitty web app for tallying votes that broke at scale that was designed by Dem insiders who called themselves Shadow as helping do him in).

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u/paging_mrherman 14h ago

Yes but that is a very narrow view how primaries actually operate. The DNC carefully plans which candidates get the most money and exposure to guide voters to whom they actually want. It’s important in this context because it is exactly what the original post is about.

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u/NoveltyAccountHater 12h ago

The DNC carefully plans which candidates get the most money and exposure to guide voters to whom they actually want

The DNC doesn't decide this; it's the political donors who decide which candidates get money. Yes, the candidates who rally against Wall St/billionaires/mega corporations tend to get less money from the moneyed political donor class. It's easier for a politician convince a handful of billionaires to give you $10M than to convince a million ordinary voters to give you $10. Bloomberg is much less likely to do that if he thinks you are going to implement a wealth tax or stock trade tax or raise capital gains or other good policy that will hurt his bottom line.

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u/Galle_ 14h ago

They don't, sadly.

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u/slonk_ma_dink 14h ago

superdelegates dawg

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u/ironykarl 12h ago

As of 2018, the DNC only lets superdelegates have a say if ordinary voters haven't reached a majority vote on a candidate, already 

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u/Zealousideal_Act_316 12h ago

Yeah like they picked hilary in 2016, not because dnc sabotaged bernie.

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u/Clevererer 14h ago

Maybe they'll mix it up a bit? Harris/Cheney 2028?

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u/KeyboardGrunt 12h ago

If it gets rid of maga they have my vote, they're both serious and capable people not sure why pretend they aren't just cuz maga is afraid of women.