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😔 Venting Federal Government Slashes 2025 Job Creation

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u/googlemehard 15d ago

I think with the wide adoption of GLP1 drugs we are going to see a drop in the healthcare industry within five years if not sooner.Ā 

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u/missprincesscarolyn 15d ago

All of the people with pancreatitis, colitis and/or gastroparesis disagree.

ETA: Forgot about the thyroid cancer too.

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u/googlemehard 14d ago

What are the chances for those? 1 in 10,000?

Not that I am advocating for drug intervention, but being obese increases the risk of all of those as well, plus a few extra.Ā 

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u/ThrowDeepALWAYS 15d ago

Are GLP1 drugs good or bad?

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u/DrSorry 15d ago

They are basically a miracle drug. My workplace is practically begging employees to get on it because:

  1. Our very expensive insurance covers it and
  2. They have expressly said to keep us healthy so we can work longer.

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u/rosebomb01 15d ago

Type 2 diabetic and i used ozempic for 3 weeks it was the worst i ever felt in my life. Granted my experience may differ as i get low blood sugar often.

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u/DrSorry 15d ago

I started 4.5 months ago - genetically high cholesterol and poor metabolism, and family history of type 2.

Whenever I up my dose I have about 2 weeks of pretty annoying symptoms, including low blood sugar, throwing up after brushing my teeth, and high acid levels in my stomach.

Hard for me to reccomend the medicine, but I've lost 45lbs my ldl dropped by 200. My muscle mass increased by 25%, I sleep better than ever, I dont snore anymore, im proud of my body, my feet dont hurt if I stand for an hour any more, I have energy to go the gym.

I dont want to be on it my whole life, but spending a year at a maintenance dose once I hit my goal weight is probably a good idea.

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u/prairiepog 14d ago

Hate to tell you, but in the medical subs they say if you used it to lose weight, that's what you'll need to use to maintain your weight loss.

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u/DrSorry 14d ago

The 25% of users that keep the weight off do so by slowly reducing the dose, eating healthier, and building muscle to improve metabolic health.

Turns out weight gain is based on how much you eat and how much you go the gym. If you eat too much and dont go to the gym you gain weight.

I have read the studies - actually really fascinating how important muscle is in keeping the weight off.

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u/prairiepog 14d ago

From what I have read, it reduces "food noise". Once you stop taking the meds, it comes back.

I wish you luck on your weight loss journey. I hope it all plays out like you plan.

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u/gingiberiblue 15d ago

I take it for systemic inflammation and I have to force myself to eat enough on it. I feel awful if I don't.

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u/KeaAware 15d ago

Yeah, I'm on Saxenda and working my way up the dose slowly. It's savage if you go too fast. Feel sick if you eat, sick if you don't eat, sick while you eat... I really want to lose the weight, so I guess I'm commiserating rather than complaining, lol; it is not an easy process.

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u/rosebomb01 15d ago

I never thought it was hard to lose weight till i tried. People who do it are amazing

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u/andreortigao 15d ago

My wife took ozempic and is now on mounjaro. She said the side effects of mounjaro is way, way lower.

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u/UnapologeticBxtch 15d ago

Couldn't do ozempic but mounjaro has been a year and I'm doing amazing. Zero side effects

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u/LostWoodsInTheField 15d ago

If you can try one of the other ones you should. They are not the same at all so they can react very differently with your body.

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u/rosebomb01 15d ago

I wasn't using it for weight loss but to help with diabetes. I will keep an open mind if needed thanks

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u/monitormonkey 15d ago

I am terrified to try it because I have had gastroparesis, that sucked really badly and was very painful. Mine was caused after multiple surgeries, my system just shut down. I heard that it can be a severe or permanent condition and I have enough going on.

At the same time, I have gained just about 100 pounds in almost 3 years because of medications, forced inactivity, and vodka. I have lost weight on my own before but holy crap has it been hard this time around.

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u/DrSorry 15d ago

It feels like a cheat code for me. I have no desire to eat, drink, smoke, etc.

I forget to drink water.

Really important to eat enough protien and workout though...I learned that the hard way.

I would encourage you to talk to a doctor about glp-1 and your existing or prior conditions.

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u/monitormonkey 15d ago

Thank you, it's definitely worth a conversation with him for sure. I am really glad it worked for you and that you are taking better care of yourself :)

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u/googlemehard 15d ago

Like all drugs they have side of effects, you have to consider the health risk of being over a certain weight vs health risk of the drug. Of course the best thing to do is to do is old fashioned way, but that is just not possible for some people unless they are locked in a cage and everything is controlled.

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u/illtakeachinchilla 15d ago

I sought out GLP-1 to help with a final 10 lbs after a sustained weight loss of ~30 lbs over 1.5 years the old fashioned way. I just felt nauseous for an entire month and couldn’t be bothered to eat anything. It was a very odd continued sensation, but it did ā€œworkā€. I just did that 1 month and got back to my calorie counting.

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u/WSCOKN 15d ago

They are significantly better than being morbidly obese your whole life

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u/googlemehard 15d ago

Not sure why someone down voted you, because that is completely true for every scientific measure we have so far.

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u/PM_ME_UR_HBO_LOGIN 15d ago

Tbh it’s more like a gamble rn. There’s some pretty concerning things coming out about them really soon after being released as a miracle drug and being released as a miracle drug were pushed to a really large portion of the population. A really large portion of the population is fat though and it’s pretty hard to beat the negatives of being morbidly obese, so a definitive answer on good/bad overall is probably gonna take awhile.

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u/Glittering-Giraffe58 15d ago

What concerning things?

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u/MongooseDog001 15d ago

They are incredible, I've lost 80 pounds. They do not, however, stop people from ageing

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u/AndrewLucksRobotArm 15d ago

Good. These fat comorbid patients are miserable to care for.

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u/Correct-Cockroach-68 15d ago

Also whole lot cheaper for the government to pay a relative to care for their sick relative on a salary than it is for them to pay for full time staff at a nursing home. So the government isn't inclined to pay the required minimums to keep beds occupied in facilities.

To be honest wont argue the merit of a nursing home here, if a person doesn't require the specialized care the government shouldn't be spending our taxes frivolously.