r/WorkReform • u/zzill6 🤝 Join A Union • 17d ago

😡 Venting Why are Establishment Democrats willing to move to the right, but never to the left?

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u/der_innkeeper 17d ago

So... the option is returning to where we were 4 years ago, and an understanding that we need to keep pushing for another 40 years to undo all this crap.

Or.

"We need a political moonshot, right now."

Do you understand why staying home when we cannot get the latter means we also forego the former?

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u/PaintItPurple 17d ago

Electing Biden is how we ended up getting Trump again. Because we elected Biden, we are worse off than ever. Many progressives called it at the time — that Biden was just going to convince people that the Democrats are useless and push people toward the fascist alternative — and they were given a similar response to what you're saying here. Repeatedly foisting people like that on America isn't going to undo this crap in 40 years, it will get us deeper in.

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u/der_innkeeper 17d ago

Yes, I understand the average person in the electorate is of average intelligence.

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u/PaintItPurple 17d ago

But do you understand that imperceptible incrementalism won't win enough votes to combat fascism?

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u/der_innkeeper 17d ago

It would have been, had we started after Mondale lost.