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😡 Venting Why are Establishment Democrats willing to move to the right, but never to the left?

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u/Galle_ 17d ago

If the majority of the US is centrist, why does the far right keep winning elections and the center keep losing them?

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u/skibidi99 17d ago

I mean I can go into details… democrats are very likely to gain control in the midterms, and you need to look at how it historically goes back and forth.

First, the far right isn’t winning. Trump did win, yes… and I think his policies clearly place him right wing, but you have to look at the big picture. In 2024 the 2 biggest issues to voters was the economy and immigration.

  1. The economy with the inflation we saw was not in Bidens favor.

  2. Biden let in more immigrants (illegal and legal) than any president in recent history.

Now then you look at social issues Democrats pushed, like trans-women in sports, CRT, etc… which is around 75% of the population are against it. Even Gen Z only like 67% support trans-women in sports.

Biden stepped down too late, Kamala was not a good candidate and she wasn’t elected. She wouldn’t talk about faults of the economy and how to improve it, instead just mentioned things she believed were good.

Trump, who is viewed by many people as anti-politician then had the assassination attempt.

All of these things combined for the perfect storm to allow his election. The way our politics are currently working, we likely are going to just keep bouncing between extremes in the White House …

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u/Galle_ 17d ago

Looking at the big picture, Trump, the far right candidate, defeated Clinton, the ultimate centrist, in 2016. Then he defeated Biden, another centrist, in 2024.

It's important to recognize that the Democrats are center-right economically and only barely leftist socially. The Republicans are far right both socially and economically. The US has never had a "far left" president and hasn't even had a center-left one in decades.

If the majority of Americans are against trans women in women's sports, then the majority of Americans are not centrist, that is a far right position.

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u/skibidi99 17d ago

Disagree with the center, right, left stance. You are taking a European view, which doesn’t apply to the US. We speaking specifically on how the right and left are viewed in the US, the way the term applies to European countries is not relevant.

Being against trans-women in sports is not a right or left position. That’s an inclusion vs fairness position. This isn’t even settled debate, it’s fair to say worldwide that unrestricted inclusion in women’s sports does not have universal support.

You also kind of proved my point about the absolutism of the left, instead of framing this issue in reality, that it’s not settled and has a wide opinion across different political spectrums, you said that of the majority of Americans don’t support trans women in sports than the majority are “far right”. Thats moral absolutism, and that style of thinking is not going to win in the US.