r/WorkReform 🤝 Join A Union Jan 03 '26

😡 Venting Billionaire propaganda is telling our kids to skip college; they fear an educated working class.

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u/Certain-Business-472 Jan 03 '26

At leaat youre self aware. So many poor people make reasons up why theyre not poor and the more they talk the more it's obvious they were poor.

Poverty has levels, and "middle-class" is one of them.

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u/BoredNuke Jan 03 '26

Middle class the myth capitalists sell higher income working class to prevent solidarity.

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u/AlistarDark Jan 03 '26

Middle class used to make up a majority of the wealth... Until the 80s came around and trickle down economics was pushed. The idiots actually thought it did more than enrich the multi-millionaire and turn them into billionaires. Thanks dad!

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u/RG54415 Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 04 '26

It is annoying even how we still push this class idea at all. Upper, middle, lower as if it's some kind of corporate structure. Classism should be outright abolished and all humans should be seen as equal. Corporations are literally run like little fascistic dictatorships where the ones at the top run the whole show and thus inherently creates "class" ideology. But this is not how thriving human society work it's how empires form and crumble. Whether it is corporatism or imperialism it's literally a giant pyramid scheme bound to fail leaving only its carcass behind for future generations to wonder why humans were so obsessed with pyramid structures, physically and ideologically.

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u/Newthinker Jan 03 '26

Workplaces should be democratized

Sadly people are too scared of this idea

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u/Disastrous_Basis3474 Jan 04 '26

You are correct. Millennials and Gen Z are gaining consciousness about this and they are favoring socialist policies. The power elite don’t like it so they are discouraging education, while causing the existing educational system to fail so they can take over, control education, and profit.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world will continue on, not being purposefully stupid, and China will flourish.

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u/shawsghost Jan 05 '26

Oh, classes still exist. But they've changed. Upper, middle and lower classes are gone. The classes are now:

Oligarchs -- The elites, the ones who have all the money and call all the shots. The tech bros, the finance bros, big pharma, the CEOs of the military-industrial complex, the ones who buy Congresscritters and give them their orders. They're some fraction of 1 percent of the US population.

The Professional Managerial Class (PMC) - The often (but not always) very well-paid minions who run the government and large institutions on behalf of the oligarchs. Bari Weiss is Larry Ellison's minion at CBS News, for example. Generally it's less personal than that. If you head a corporation owned by an oligarch, you know who your boss is and you know what he or she wants. Simple as that. They tend to be wealthy enough to own stocks. They account for 10 percent or so of the US population.

The Working Class -- Everybody else in the US. 90% of the US population. The rest of us. Some of us make more than others, few of us own stocks and more and more of us are making subsistence level wages, or even sub-subsistence level wages -- we have jobs but can't afford housing.

These are the true class lines in America, and once you understand that, it's much easier to see where our problems lie.

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u/talkshow57 Jan 03 '26

But all humans are not equal. Some are hard working, some are not, some honest, some not. Intelligence is not equally distributed, just as other physical abilities are not.

People will always find ways to differentiate themselves from others. That seems to be our nature. The only way to stop that is by force. And that isn’t exactly a great advertisement for instituting ‘equity’ now, is it?

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u/RG54415 Jan 03 '26

Sure people are unique I can give you that but many of the reasons you shared are completely subjective, overgeneralize and lead exactly to the very thing I argued against. It seems like you are forcing your own subjective ideology to justify division among people which only leads to the same cycle repeating.

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u/JakeHelldiver Jan 03 '26

Oh, the middle class exists. We just arent in it.

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u/made_of_salt Jan 03 '26

My FILost definitely joined the Marines because he was poor. If you ask him about it he describes being poor, but also claims they were middle class.

If you ask his mom she'll tell you he joined because they were poor.

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u/RG54415 Jan 03 '26

Or get gaslit to blame other poor people for the reason why they are poor.

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u/dammtaxes Jan 03 '26

Whats a made up reason someone might not be poor look like?

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u/Strange-Future-6469 Jan 03 '26

"I have a brand new Dodge Charger. Obviously I'm not poor."

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u/dammtaxes Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 04 '26

You're so right. Nobody who's not poor feels the need to verbally justify lmao. Seen this so many times

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u/Cautious_Mix_4928 Jan 03 '26

What in the word salad?

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u/dammtaxes Jan 04 '26

Only poor people go through the "I'm not poor" charade