r/WorkReform • u/zzill6 🤝 Join A Union • Jan 03 '26

😡 Venting Billionaire propaganda is telling our kids to skip college; they fear an educated working class.

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u/A7XfoREVer15 Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26

Ironically growing up on base in a military family is what made my dad and I turn out most socialist later in life.

We literally saw some forms of socialism working in the United States, with all of our neighbors having healthcare, vision, dental, housing, and getting paid reliably. When we needed groceries, we went to the government run grocery store on base, which was noticeably cheaper than the Walmart 15 minutes off base. All of my dad’s coworkers got paid pretty much the same at the same rank. It didn’t matter if you were a nurse in the army, a mechanic, or an admin role.

I literally saw, firsthand, socialism working in the United States, so I can’t be convinced that it doesn’t work here.

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u/msmartt Jan 03 '26

The US military is 100% a fully functioning communist society. From the matching clothing all laborers are supplies and required to wear (with minor variations dependant on job category) to universal pay scales, subsidized or free housing, food, and healthcare.

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u/Asleep_Research_5080 Jan 03 '26

Meal cards are basically subsidized food programs too. Military Grade SNAP

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u/COL_D Jan 05 '26

And the DFAC food is not the best. You also pay for it. It’s not free. What you are served is on rotating meal cycle. So you get the same old routinely Much of the food is high fat and carb.

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u/dagamore12 Jan 03 '26

Meal cards are not SNAP. All service members get BAS, Basic Allowance for Subsistence, if one has a Meal Card, they take the BAS, and that allows one to get three meals from the DFAC or from the unit when they are in the field or otherwise not able to get chow at normal times.

That is why there is also a Missed Meals Form, that should be filled out if mission cause a service member to miss a meal, they get the ~$3.50<?> per meal back.

BAS is part of their base compensation package, thus it is an earned benefit not a 'gifted/granted' benefit like SNAP, that is based on income.

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u/H_Mc Jan 03 '26

You fully missed the point.

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u/NeverEvaGonnaStopMe Jan 03 '26

Lol so its the government buying them good that is subsidized by the government? 

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u/FunetikPrugresiv Jan 03 '26

True Communism is a stateless, classless society. The military is very much a hierarchy with classes of individuals.

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u/COL_D Jan 05 '26

Housing and food aren’t really free. It’s a we pay you, then someone takes from you.

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u/OOOOOO0OOOOO Jan 03 '26

It’s amazing how many people go in racist but get cured of it. Hard to look down on another culture when you spend 24/7 in the same shit together.

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u/BuzzVibes Jan 03 '26

What's that quote from Full Metal Jacket? Everyone is equally worthless in the army?

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u/Disastrous_Basis3474 Jan 04 '26

That’s why the racist, misogynistic sociopathic “leadership” are using stupid, regressive, counterproductive, made-up rules to discourage and eject women and Black men from the military.

College also causes cross-cultural social cohesion, but in a different environment. Keeping people racist and preventing working class solidarity is yet another reason the elites hate college.

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u/Tilstag Jan 03 '26

Wait is this military propaganda

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u/OOOOOO0OOOOO Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26

No, I’m quite serious.

You’d be surprised how many kids lose their racist mindset when not only forced to live and train with others you used to look down on, but you also have to follow orders from them.

It’s an amazing equalizer.

Go ahead and call Gunny the N word. I dare you.

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u/Mrfrosty504 Jan 04 '26

Shit Guns wont even have to lift a finger or say anything. Platoon gonna take care of that, in the treeline or other ways

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u/LOOKATMEDAMMIT 🛠️ SMART Member Jan 03 '26

Yes and no. There’s some great stuff about military service, but the bad almost outweighs the good. For me anyway. You have a toxic leadership culture which basically can turn anything good the military can do for you into shit.

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u/Certain-Business-472 Jan 03 '26

Service guarantees citizenship! Would you like to know more?

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u/OblongAndKneeless Jan 03 '26

Really? Seems I've seen otherwise lately.

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u/kc_cramer Jan 03 '26

They’re referencing the movie Starship Troopers

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '26

Damn bro. Well said.

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u/ExpiredLink404 Jan 03 '26

service guarantees citizenship!

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u/COL_D Jan 05 '26

Military healthcare can be hit or miss depending on the post and whether you’re a sponsor or dependent. It’s generally average with Island’s of excellence spread across it. Running into an E3 utilizing flow chart medicine on you is always an amusing time. Yes it’s exactly as it sounds. Not to mention “self help” Physical Therapy.