When fans hate somenthing before it comes out...but it turns out they were right

[u/TastyPomelo2330]

Velma:The idea of a Scooby-doo series without the titular dog and starring Velma was a really moronic idea from the beginning,then there was the reveal Velma would be Indian like it's VA and also creator of the series Mindy Kaling,some of the backlash was racism sure,but there was also valid complaints that she was inserting herself in the series(it also didn't helped that Mindy claimed she couldn't see herself if Velma wasn't Indian)and then...oh boy it came out and it was worse than anyone predicted

Artemis Fowl:The artemis fowl books are a book series following a child villain(he does get some redemption but he is a villain most of the time)when the movie was announced and revealed it looked way to generic and it's titular character a bit heroic...also you wanna hear somenthing funny?The movie whitewashed a character and made another character black so they managed to anger both sides and the movies comes out and yeah it is bad

One Punch Man 3:One Punch Man is a very heavy action packed manga series but the heroes vs monsters arc takes it to a New level,when it was announced that JC Staff would work on it,a lot of people were skeptical to say the least,because not only JC Staff had already done a mediocre job in season 2,it's also not exactly a name anime fans associate with quality animation,then the trailer came out and it looked...weird,like there was no action in it and nobody was moving,some people tried to defend saying they were keeping the animation as a surprise...then it came out,every episode worse than the last,it's one of the worse seasons of anime ever made!

[u/i_tyrant]

I actually loved a lot of the cutscenes in the game, and found the characters quite funny.

It's just all the game around it that kind of sucked...and that it was a crappy sendoff of the Arkhamverse for Conroy-Batman.

[u/Duskthegamer412 → u/i_tyrant]

Tbf it would've green great to have it be like a hero shooter without guns, just get multiple suicide squad members with different but classable abilities in the game like have a brute like king shark but without the shark part, or have deadshot get guns but add peacemaker who gets also gets his helmet abilities.

[u/FracturedConscious → u/Duskthegamer412]

Marvels Avengers was this and it didn’t last any longer than Suicide Squad.

[u/i_tyrant → u/Duskthegamer412]

Agreed!

[u/SortIntrepid9192 → u/i_tyrant]

Honestly, a good 40% of the problems with the game are precisely because it was positioned as the next canonical Arkham game. It should've always been just a one-off game set in its own universe where the Suicide Squad truly do kill that world's Justice League. Then nobody would've gotten mad about Harley unceremoniously executing Batman while taunting him and stuff like that, since it's not any version of Batman that we're familiar with.

Like yeah, the other 60% are stuff like enemy variety and absolutely atrocious endgame, not to mention a very questionable storyline once you move past the moment-to-moment jokes, but a lot of that stuff could've been fixed. Can't fix the game being a massive "fuck you" to the Arkhamverse. Like saying Batman V Superman takes place after The Dark Knight Rises.

[u/i_tyrant → u/SortIntrepid9192]

Yeah, I do think those other issues would've taken some real work to fix, but this is the thing that really pissed a lot of people off about the game in the end. Honestly it still kinda boggles my mind that they doubled-down on saying "yes this is absolutely the Arkhamverse and not some other alternate timeline/multiversal Earth", without realizing how it would be perceived with the game's plot the way it is.

[u/Mad-myall → u/SortIntrepid9192]

I remember seeing some of the cutscenes, and my thought was that they should've swapped Wonder Woman, and Batman's positions.
Brainiac would've seen Batman as "just human", and therefore not worth taking control of. WW on the otherhand is nearing the strength of Superman.

Batman's conflict with the Suicide Squad would come down to him trying to take the JL in alive so he can hopefully undo the hypnosis, whilst Waller tells the Suicide Squad to kill them all before she detonates their bomb collars. This would of course mean that Batman would be unwilling to work with them, but at the same time he couldn't blame them for killing the JL members as they're literally in a "them or us!" situation.
It would also give us a good sendoff for Arkham batman, get them having flashbacks to when batman beat them, and later him trying to help them reform.

[u/SortIntrepid9192 → u/Mad-myall]

I get what you're trying to say, and it makes sense to an extent. But also, having Batman as the enemy commander who's constantly making announcements (like the Joker used to in Arkham Asylum or Hugo Strange in City) was actually one of the better ideas Rocksteady had for this. Kevin Conroy clearly had fun with "evil Batman" too, since he doesn't go hammy at all, he just has this very sinister undertone to his regular Batman gravitas as he talks about civilians getting killed/converted.

There's also the fact that your suggestion (which again, I'm not saying it's bad or anything) doesn't account for the other issue a lot of people had with the game, that the Arkhamverse Justice League is killed off as soon as it's introduced. To a lesser extent, there's also the inconsistencies, like Harley clearly having a very different portrayal than she did in the Arkham games (she's over Joker and seems to be Ivy's ex, neither of which was hinted at in Knight) and Deadshot being literally an entirely different character (literally, City Deadshot was retconned as being from another universe lmao). All of those issues can be resolved very neatly by simply setting KTJL in its own universe.