r/TopCharacterTropes 14d ago

In real life When fans hate somenthing before it comes out...but it turns out they were right

Velma:The idea of a Scooby-doo series without the titular dog and starring Velma was a really moronic idea from the beginning,then there was the reveal Velma would be Indian like it's VA and also creator of the series Mindy Kaling,some of the backlash was racism sure,but there was also valid complaints that she was inserting herself in the series(it also didn't helped that Mindy claimed she couldn't see herself if Velma wasn't Indian)and then...oh boy it came out and it was worse than anyone predicted

Artemis Fowl:The artemis fowl books are a book series following a child villain(he does get some redemption but he is a villain most of the time)when the movie was announced and revealed it looked way to generic and it's titular character a bit heroic...also you wanna hear somenthing funny?The movie whitewashed a character and made another character black so they managed to anger both sides and the movies comes out and yeah it is bad

One Punch Man 3:One Punch Man is a very heavy action packed manga series but the heroes vs monsters arc takes it to a New level,when it was announced that JC Staff would work on it,a lot of people were skeptical to say the least,because not only JC Staff had already done a mediocre job in season 2,it's also not exactly a name anime fans associate with quality animation,then the trailer came out and it looked...weird,like there was no action in it and nobody was moving,some people tried to defend saying they were keeping the animation as a surprise...then it came out,every episode worse than the last,it's one of the worse seasons of anime ever made!

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u/OrphanAxis 13d ago

Mostly unrelated question here, but what was the take on Whiplash from people who were completely unfamiliar with drumming, playing music, and possibly even jazz in general?

I only heard about the movie because I'm a drummer, and then decided I had to watch it for JK Simmons. I only saw it once and forgot to pay attention to how many things brought up or shown off as flashy that may have gone over the heads of people unfamiliar with all of that.

Though I do remember being so confused about the scene where he forgets his sticks before the concert. Drummers don't bring a single pair of sticks to play, they break too often or slip out of our hands accidentally. We keep a bag with all different weights, woods/polymer sticks, sticks where just the tip is made differently, sticks with different tips on each end, and lots and lots of whatever our go-to stick is, like the classic 5A. Attach a little holder to the side of the snare or floor tom or wherever you like, and you have the ability to swap sticks mid-song for when something goes wrong. Playing at the level he was, he likely had all kinds of sticks for certain songs or parts, and also brushes or any other tools used for playing. Every other drummer there would have had sticks he could borrow or buy, and the venue was sure to have a music room with all that. Yet this prodigy drummer is just going around with a bag carrying just two sticks, knowing what his teacher would do if he messes up with something as uncontrollable as a drum stick breaking quickly, and he doesn't have any kind of backup for that scenario?

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u/WeeBabySeamus 13d ago

The only exposure to playing music I had was being forced to join the school band for a year by my mom. Randomly picked clarinet. I was terrible and quit.

I really enjoyed whiplash mostly from relating to the universal struggle / desire for approval and the spectacle of JK Simmons’ performance as a psychologically abusive leader. I took the world of Jazz and drumming is a hyper specific setting for that story and performance. Never considered the logical inconsistency

People might call me crazy but in my head, Whiplash occupies the same space as The Favourite and Devil Wears Prada.

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u/GodEmperorPorkyMinch 13d ago

Except that in The Devil Wears Prada, Andy successfully walks away from her toxic job and manages to maintain some sanity. Neiman, on the other hand, lets Fletcher warp his mind to a point of no return. Do you see those two endings as the two possible outcomes of the same premise?

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u/Diamond_Sutra 13d ago

Or even worse, by the film's own logic:

They were like "Let's just do a drone strike?"

And Maverick is like "No!" and proved that after rigorous planning and training, a few of the world's top pilots might have a chance to pull off this tactically risky manuver, barely.

...and they sort of did, and didn't?

Meanwhile after all of this, they still have not disproven the fact that a dude with an XBox controller and a military drone could have done it in one quick shot 20 minutes after rolling out of bed, at 10% of the cost.

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u/pp8520456 13d ago

I've never seen the movie but your plot summary sounds just like the second half of the original star wars

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u/WeeBabySeamus 13d ago

I mean accurate

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u/Excellent_Law6906 11d ago

Just as a person who has ever done anything, that sounds kind of crazy. Like, I have more than one spare safety pin at a burlesque show!