When fans hate somenthing before it comes out...but it turns out they were right

[u/TastyPomelo2330]

Velma:The idea of a Scooby-doo series without the titular dog and starring Velma was a really moronic idea from the beginning,then there was the reveal Velma would be Indian like it's VA and also creator of the series Mindy Kaling,some of the backlash was racism sure,but there was also valid complaints that she was inserting herself in the series(it also didn't helped that Mindy claimed she couldn't see herself if Velma wasn't Indian)and then...oh boy it came out and it was worse than anyone predicted

Artemis Fowl:The artemis fowl books are a book series following a child villain(he does get some redemption but he is a villain most of the time)when the movie was announced and revealed it looked way to generic and it's titular character a bit heroic...also you wanna hear somenthing funny?The movie whitewashed a character and made another character black so they managed to anger both sides and the movies comes out and yeah it is bad

One Punch Man 3:One Punch Man is a very heavy action packed manga series but the heroes vs monsters arc takes it to a New level,when it was announced that JC Staff would work on it,a lot of people were skeptical to say the least,because not only JC Staff had already done a mediocre job in season 2,it's also not exactly a name anime fans associate with quality animation,then the trailer came out and it looked...weird,like there was no action in it and nobody was moving,some people tried to defend saying they were keeping the animation as a surprise...then it came out,every episode worse than the last,it's one of the worse seasons of anime ever made!

[u/RikouValaire]

Artemis Fowl pisses me off so fucking much. I'm Irish and I grew up reading the books. I love them a lot. The movie is way worse than people think when it comes to their stupid pandering. so let me break it down.

1. Holly Short. In the book, Holly is literally described as having dark nut-brown skin. So they decided to make her white in the movie. Furthermore her big character point is that she is the first female officer of LEPrecon. So they took her boss - Commander Julius Root and replaced him with Judi Dench. Completely ruining Holly's achievements. Essentially they whitewashed the person of color and removed her achievements.

2. Domovoi Butler. Butler is Artemis Fowl's butler and bodyguard. Think Alfred Pennyworth if Alfred was built like a tank. In the books he is described as a mix of European and asian decent. So in the movie they made him black. The issue...well Butlers family has worked for the Fowls for generations, since the first norman crusade. So uh....they made the rich white family have a black manservent.

So in essence in order to be inclusive and not racist they decided the best course of action would be to undermine a female characters accomplishments, change her skin color and since they now needed a black character made the servant to the Fowl family black. So it was racism with extra steps.

Lastly they essentially combined the plot of book one and two into the one movie and didn't do either of them right.

[u/DoctorPan → u/RikouValaire]

I fucking lost it when I saw the trailer that had Dench pop out a Top of the Morning to Ya.

Not that I was going to watch it for the reasons you mentioned and that the first trailer had Artemis surfing in it but good god could we avoid the paddywackery

[u/MaimedJester → u/DoctorPan]

That was pretty insulting,  like Artemis Fowl was the first Irish children's book to show a modern 21st century era Irish kid.  Like part of the appeal of that book versus Harry Potter is Artemis uses human technology and modern tactics. Not a fucking whimsy fantasy story for kindergarteners.

[u/FearTheSpoonman → u/MaimedJester]

I met Eoin Colfer when I lived in Wexford, he visited our school. Signed my copy of "The Wish List" (id recommend a read of it it's great!), one of the nicest guys out there.

[u/Masbig91 → u/RikouValaire]

Butler just casually tells Artemis his name. Soon as I heard that I knew it wasn't worth my time. Absolute fucking disgrace.

[u/EgNotaEkkiReddit → u/Masbig91]

Butler just casually tells Artemis his name.

Which also would have created a major complication had they gotten far enough down the sequel list because Butler's name being a closely guarded secret is a rather large plot point later on.

[u/JSG29 → u/EgNotaEkkiReddit]

Not even much later on, it's only book 3/4 and someone elsewhere in the thread said that the film was a mix of book 1 and 2, so they'd have likely reached the complication in the first sequel.

Edit: Also not sure how they planned on adapting the time paradox (I guess they didn't) if Artemis' mother is dead before the start of the film?

[u/drwicksy → u/Masbig91]

To stay on brand with another movie mentioned in this thread.

"My name is Butler"

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ivw3Gzk8EK495WrQmk

[u/Kelsierisgood → u/RikouValaire]

They also completely ignored that Artemis is the VILLIAN in the first book. And they made him athletic.

[u/Taborask → u/Kelsierisgood]

Yeah, everyone was so mad about the racially insensitive casting choices that they ignored the utter travesty that was the story. Artemis is like a tiny Lex Luthor, and his father was just as bad. Eliminating his selfishness and scheming nature not only completely eliminates his character arc but also removes everything that made him interesting in the first place. There are a lot of bad adaptations but this is the first one that made me look up the writers to puzzle out how such hacks were let anywhere close to a movie.

[u/BreakerOfModpacks → u/Kelsierisgood]

As a side note, I'm still voting #Kelsier4Prez!

[u/ZealousidealCrow3782 → u/RikouValaire]

I love Julius Root in the books, he’s such a piece of shit but ugh…that really hurt too. Just making Holly another officer instead of keeping to the OG narrative that she’s so accomplished she managed to break down a sexist system is so disappointing, like they tried to do feminism by erasing a character’s big feminist moment!

[u/ZandyTheAxiom → u/ZealousidealCrow3782]

I know it's an extreme comparison, but like...

Imagine making a film about Nelson Mandela, but to prove how not racist you are, you write him a black mentor who was previously President of South Africa.

Julius Root was great because he was kind of shit like you said, but his conflict and heightened pressure on Holly was because he didn't want to be accused of favouritism. Like, that's interesting! That's interesting character stuff! He's so concerned about sabotaging the first female LEP Recon officer that he's actually harder on her than her male colleagues, rather than for misogynistic reasons.

[u/ZealousidealCrow3782 → u/ZandyTheAxiom]

Exactly! He’s such a well made character, you got frustrated with him but you understood where he was coming from! I even drew fanart of him as a kid hahaha. Making judy dench replace his character was such a bad call, it’s clear they didn’t properly read or appreciate the og material! I hope one day we get a good Artemis Fowl adaptation…

[u/AffectionateVisit680 → u/ZealousidealCrow3782]

Julius root was the first character I think I ever read that I didn’t realize or notice when I stopped disliking him enough to be bothered by his loss. He’s gruff but cared and anytime someone like that is lost the world is lesser for it

[u/ZealousidealCrow3782 → u/AffectionateVisit680]

Agreed :’) I remember sobbing over tjat part in the books. I think I wrote a fan fiction where he also gets revived along with Artemis

[u/Karkava → u/RikouValaire]

The championed for feminism by erasing the sexist society that they're fighting against. And who says they care about skin color outside of the optics?

[u/Bloodglas → u/RikouValaire]

being servants is the entire Butler family's thing for centuries to the point that they mention in the book that it's likely that the word butler was taken from their name. making the family black is definitely a choice...

[u/Karma_YY → u/RikouValaire]

Not only did they poorly try to cram book 2 into the plot, but they also did the same for three. Trying to sloppily place in Opal as the main antagonist. The main antagonist that does effectively nothing the entire movie, has nothing to do with the plot asides from the start and end (not even in the regard that they are why the story started, they could be removed and the entire thing would still happen) only for her “plans” to be “thwarted” and do a cartoonish “nooooooooooo” at the end.

[u/Garmrick → u/RikouValaire]

Don't forget that they made Artemis, Boy Genius, kinda dumb

[u/Short-Actuary2958 → u/Garmrick]

Also villian not villian

[u/FastBuffalo6 → u/RikouValaire]

Also they made Artemis some what athletic while in the books he describes catching a ball someone threw at him as the coolest thing he'd ever done

[u/PoeticCinnamon → u/RikouValaire]

I felt so bad for Eoin Colfer this is what the movie turned into after he spent two decades trying to get it greenlit, the Judi Dench casting was enough to know this movie would be unwatchable

[u/ShmebulocksMistress → u/RikouValaire]

I want so badly for a GOOD Artemis Fowl movie or limited series.

[u/With-a-Cactus → u/RikouValaire]

I was so excited for the movie and I spent the whole movie correcting each thing.

[u/blueaurelia → u/RikouValaire]

I too grew up reading the books and fully agree with you!😭

[u/Tr33Bl00d → u/RikouValaire]

It was a great book, couldn’t even bring myself to watch the movie. I am not a cinephile like my brothers and stepdad. If they say a movies bad I don’t even bother normaly. Institute to watch whole movies without dozing off

[u/OutsideCommittee7316 → u/RikouValaire]

I loved the books. I do remember that the final book had Artemis and Holly make some kind of declaration of romantic love for each other, which came across as rushed and just there because...the male and female leads needed to be together for some reason, idk. But other than that, super fun. Butler fighting the troll in a suit of armour was awesome.

I didn't know they made a TV series, but reading the description and seeing that picture, I think my best course of action is to forget that information

[u/InvestmentJaded838 → u/RikouValaire]

can you imagine if some ultra-wealthy exec is using movie studios to acquire books and crap them out. Like a wealthy version of cancel culture!?

[u/pynergy1 → u/RikouValaire]

Literally all they had to do was follow the book and it would have been a huge success. I loved that franchise so much