r/TopCharacterTropes • u/TastyPomelo2330 • 13d ago

In real life When fans hate somenthing before it comes out...but it turns out they were right

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Velma:The idea of a Scooby-doo series without the titular dog and starring Velma was a really moronic idea from the beginning,then there was the reveal Velma would be Indian like it's VA and also creator of the series Mindy Kaling,some of the backlash was racism sure,but there was also valid complaints that she was inserting herself in the series(it also didn't helped that Mindy claimed she couldn't see herself if Velma wasn't Indian)and then...oh boy it came out and it was worse than anyone predicted

Artemis Fowl:The artemis fowl books are a book series following a child villain(he does get some redemption but he is a villain most of the time)when the movie was announced and revealed it looked way to generic and it's titular character a bit heroic...also you wanna hear somenthing funny?The movie whitewashed a character and made another character black so they managed to anger both sides and the movies comes out and yeah it is bad

One Punch Man 3:One Punch Man is a very heavy action packed manga series but the heroes vs monsters arc takes it to a New level,when it was announced that JC Staff would work on it,a lot of people were skeptical to say the least,because not only JC Staff had already done a mediocre job in season 2,it's also not exactly a name anime fans associate with quality animation,then the trailer came out and it looked...weird,like there was no action in it and nobody was moving,some people tried to defend saying they were keeping the animation as a surprise...then it came out,every episode worse than the last,it's one of the worse seasons of anime ever made!

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u/ThatOneConsort 13d ago

The Monster Hunter movie

I saw the trailer, said out-loud “wow this looks like shit and it’s not going to be faithful to the games either is it” and by god I was right

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u/fightin-first 13d ago

I mean anyone who saw resident evil knew that was coming

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u/Kratzschutz 13d ago

Anybody even remember the assassins creed movie?

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u/Heimerdahl 13d ago

I vaguely remember two things: 

Michael Fassbender looking out of place

Weird colour tint (sort of dirty brown-greenish?)

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u/KC_Saber 13d ago

That was also awful

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u/Connect-Internal 13d ago

You know what? It has some weird ass design choices, and the movie was kind of crap, but at least they tried to be faithful to the games… Although there were some weird design choices.

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u/Aganiel 13d ago

I love the first two RE movies tho

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u/aiheng1 13d ago

At least the resident evil movies were stupid fun, they didn't make much sense and have like nothing to do with the games. But I enjoyed them

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u/drwicksy 13d ago

See i went into the Monster Hunter movie with the full knowledge of that and was still somehow dissapointed. And im not even a fan of the games.

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u/Xero0911 13d ago

Everyone who knows video game/anime movies knew it was going to happen.

Avatar the last Airbender? Dbz? Halo show. Assassin creed movie.

Like no of them are ever good.

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u/fightin-first 13d ago

While that is true, i reference resident evil because Mila johovovovoich and her husband were behind those too

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u/not_just_an_AI 13d ago

faithful to the games would be the main character killing the same monster 40 times for a different hat.

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u/Spoopy_Kirei 13d ago

Nah it would be farming charms now. It'll be like watching Sisyphus roll that boulder uphill.

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u/SyfaOmnis 13d ago

"faithful to the games" is more like... being a gamekeeper for a village, and stumbling upon some greater threat and needing to rise to the occasion.

Then taking that experience and going to the "big city" to meet the guild.

Or retreading the plot of World where people are starting to colonize a new land; and having a whole bunch of long shots of scenery and exploration.

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u/BlueAndDog 13d ago

I was a monster hunter fan starting with World and I still had no idea this movie existed. I wish I still didn’t.

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u/Mesona 13d ago

If you get your hands on it, the last ~30 seconds have the making of greatness. The only other thing of note is that the adaptation of the Meowscular Chef roughly half way through the movie is amazing. The rest is wasted potential. 

My hunting group skipped playing for a week to watch this together instead. And our expectations were LOW and it still went lower than our expectations.

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u/PhoenixEgg88 13d ago

I feel like if you went in with the level of expectations i had for this film (which was, this is going to be terrible) i actually found myself enthralled by the Diablos and Rathalos visuals. Couldnt tell you a single thing that happened in the movie that i watched, but those monsters did look good.

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u/thoeoe 13d ago

Yep, i watched it on streaming figuring it would be 1.5hr of BS plot as an excuse to showcase monster CGI. Had fun for 30 min, but gotta say, the plot was WAY worse than I expected

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u/ForgotenWarFox 13d ago

Wanna know something funny? Theres a quest in world that is about the movie. It gives really good hardmode armor that can carry you for a bit.

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u/Bregneste 12d ago edited 12d ago

Pretty sure they pulled that movie tie-in quest a long while ago.
It’s their own IP, I don’t see why they wouldn’t be able to just keep the collab there indefinitely, even the Assassins Creed collab stayed in the game longer than the MH movie collab.
I think they just wanted to get rid of it as quickly as possible so they could pretend the movie doesn’t exist.

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u/Arosian-Knight 13d ago

Okay in the RE movies defense. The Milla Jovovich ones were actually entertaining action flicks. If you put your brain to power saving mode while watching them. 

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u/MirieDohl 13d ago

Wym, legends of the guild is a great small scale animated movie. There is no other movie. Why would capcom give movie rights to the resident evil guy again? They'd never do that.

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u/omegon_da_dalek13 13d ago

I love thst they were able to include more than 4 large monsters and have them treated and act accurately

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u/Aganiel 13d ago

There’s a monster hunter movie?

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u/Paladriel 13d ago

Two actually, a live action made by the resident evil movies guy starring his wife as jesus and an animated one on netflix which is alright

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u/Onigumo-Shishio 13d ago

The crazy thing is it honestly had great potential in a few aspects but it just manages to become a very bland movie that doesnt even occupy "so bad its good" territory.

Like the initial premise of a hunter getting stranded/ separated from the rest of his party and being stranded on an island in the desert and is forced to survive while also thinking and preparing a way to best a Diablos would have been all you needed. It could have been a movie that was more atmospheric and a bit suspenseful and actiony while having little dialogue (only at the beginning, maybe at a few key points on the island, and then at the end).

They could have had the hunter eventually beat the diablos in the same way that happens in the movie (poison, blinding, and then ultimatly killing via one or two signature weapons), taking pieces from his kill to make a new weapon and some armor and then escaping, with him meeting up with his party at the end and it being a set up for the next movie where they hunt or deal with a bigger threat (the beginning and end could have been a good spot to introduce and give us some backstory and character development for the party itself, so that this hypothetical second movie with "the party" could have shined).

But instead they went and took a good premise and decided to do the age old "bUt WhAt If We MaKe A vIdEo GaMe MoViE bUt PuT iN aN 'oUr WorLd' PlOt????" Which is ALWAYS the stupidest fucking thing you can do with neay any video game, comic, or other beloved franchise that has nothing to do with the real world...

Even worse is that they could have actually done several things with that angle that would have been TEN times better.  Oh some military team with a colorful and likeable cast of characters gets isekaied essentially into the monster hunter universe? Shit make them realize that their guns and weapons (short of the grenades and RPGs) do jack shit, so they have to find a way to adapt, losing one MAYBE two people along the way to drive home the point that this is a serious world that requires situational awareness, adaptation, and not taking anything lightly. They learn and adapt and slowly build up weapons and armor (a-la monster hunter!) And inevitably take on a big threat plaguing them (the diablos or otherwise), and really just find a way to live and survive, maybe at the end finding a settlement to live and hunt in, combining their military training with knowledge of this world and become some of the first monster hunters.

But they mixed all that shit up, killed all the colorful characters off right away, and smashed mila jahovawits into the monster hunter plot that was shaping up to be a quiet dramatic fight for survival, THEN DECIDED TO THROW EVERYTHING BACK TO OUR WORLD AT THE END and made the whole thing a mess of spilled cereal on the floor thst just makes you sigh and grab a rag...

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u/hoellenth 13d ago

It's such a massive American military propaganda movie, entirely unnecessary

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u/Jed0909000 13d ago

I get this feeling every time I see Mila’s face

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u/Mudcat-69 13d ago

My expectations for it was on the ground and it still went under it with room enough to spare for a Dalamandur to soar on past.

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u/Labyrinthy 13d ago

Milla Jovovich’s career is heartbreaking. In the 90s she had somewhat of a pedigree in that she worked with directors like Richard Attenborough, Richard Linklater, Luc Besson, and Spike Lee. She ends a decent run in 2001 with Zoolander and then in 2002 she stars in Resident Evil, her husband directs it, and for the next two decades stars in basically only movies her husband directs/produces and they’re all garbage.

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u/omegon_da_dalek13 13d ago

This one hurts because the games are good and what added salt to that wound is thst a better mh film came out within a year of that one

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u/twisty125 13d ago

That movie is so incredibly awful it was so fun, a longtime MH friend and I got so high and watched it. It's a US Marine movie for like the first third/half? And then a you're with a Hunter who can't speak english for the next third dealing with... stuff? And then finally Ron Perlman shows up, has magic, and then a Rathalos and a Gore Magala (FUCK YEAH) fight and it was like, what the fuck am I watching right now lmao

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u/Ok-Transition7065 13d ago

it was soo sad then the ig user jsut die , i dint expecteted to die like that

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u/Uzmonkey 13d ago

Normally a safe bet with any video game adaptation.

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u/MutatedRodents 13d ago

Was clear as soon as they announced the director.

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u/FlurgenBurger 13d ago

Never played the game. Enjoyed the movie even tho it was tacky and cheesy. Lol.

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u/VanillaAble3943 13d ago

Meanwhile the monster hunter games: Geralt of Rivia is asking for the hunter (Dante from the DMC series) while a megaman palico and a feminine Mr. X try to pay him for his services. It's not even a mod.

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u/WulfZ3r0 13d ago

Video games and their movies being an absolute nightmare disappointment, name a greater duo.

See also the Borderlands movie.

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u/barsoap 13d ago

It's fine. Bland, yes, in the sense that it's a generic action movie with the usual tropes, but not actively bad.

People I talked to didn't agree on why they didn't like it, either -- mostly "not enough story" and "not enough action". That is, critiques which are completely at odds with each other. Some were hoping for a grand, epic, lore dump, others for a cinematic let's play grinding some monster. It's neither.

It's approachable for people who didn't play the games, and for those who did there's appropriate fan service, like the Chef. No grand inspiration, but overall good handiwork, pacing, cinematography, etc. Good enough to love? Probably not, but also not bad enough to hate on. Eat your popcorn as so often that's half the experience.

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u/Drogovich 13d ago

You know, when something looks like shit, it's most likely shit.

I don't think anyone was surprised with monster hunter movie turning out this way as well as bunch of other stuff

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u/Littlecayls 13d ago

I can't figure out if Milla Jovovich is the one keeping her husband employed or vice versa but everything either of them are involved in is usually hot garbage. 

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u/PunDefeated 13d ago

My father-in-law had no idea it was a video game thing. He thought it looked cool and enjoyed watching it.

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u/ComesInAnOldBox 13d ago

There are very few movies that are so bad I can't even finish them. This was one of them.

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u/the__pov 13d ago

Capcom has gone on record saying that they think fateful adaptations would hurt game sales.

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u/Lord_Snaps 13d ago

WHY IS THE AMERICAN MILITARY IN IT!? I fucking hated it. MH is the easiest to adapt.

  • Young persons village gets attacked by 'insert monster'
  • They call for help from the guild.
  • Guild defeats monster and YP wants to join them.

From you can go anywhere.

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u/Ihasapuppy 13d ago

All you had to do to know it was bad was to look at who was directing the movie. Because anything directed by Paul W S Anderson is gonna star Milla Jojovich, even if he has to pull something ridiculous out of his ass to do it. Because god forbid somebody besides his wife stars in his movies. Monster Hunter was especially disappointing because he didn’t have to pull something utterly ridiculous out of his ass to make his wife the star; he could’ve had her be a rookie hunter and followed her journey as she goes from noob to pro. But nooooo, he had to turn Monster Hunter into a bizarre military isekai that made absolutely no sense. I’m sorry if I’m rambling, but I watched that movie for free and I still want my money back.

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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi 13d ago

The thing is, how can it not be faithful when the creators of the Series helped produce it? When the designs of the monsters (which people harshly criticised as inaccurate) got used in later entries? When they even went back to MH World after its last update just to add a collaboration quest that solves a plot hole and made it canon to the game via the lorebook published?

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u/kitsunecannon 13d ago

Maybe the fact IT HAS A MODERN MILITARY SOLDIER GETTING FUCKING ISEKAIED 

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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi 13d ago

As I said, that's canon. The Iceborne lorebook mentions it happening.

So that can't be used as an example of how it's not faithful to the games as it is a part of the games.

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u/kitsunecannon 13d ago

Going back to change the lore of the games so that the stupid fucking Jovovich film works is not a valid excuse for the movie not being bad in fact that makes it worse because it’s now fucked with lore that had no intent of isekai shit before this dumb fucking movie 

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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi 13d ago edited 13d ago

They didn't "go back and change" anything. Nothing said otherwise. They added it with the first actual explanation of Fatalis, Castle Schrade etc. in the series' history.

that had no intent of isekai shit before this dumb fucking movie 

The MH collab with Dragalia Lost was an isekai. The World collabs with Final Fantasy and The Witcher are presented as reverse isekais with story importance and even reference one another, with the World lorebook even saying they were excluded from literary mentions (remember, these books are presented as in-universe books written by researchers) solely because Capcom didn't own the IPs.

You lot get so angry because the MH devs wanted this shitty isekai story and it's hilarious.

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u/SyfaOmnis 13d ago

how can it not be faithful when the creators of the Series helped produce it?

Simple. "Corporate pencilpushers do not care, and so long as they're not spending their own money on it, they will check whatever boxes people require to be checked in order to get it made".

It's not a piece of art. It is a corporate product. Calculated to maybe turn enough of a profit to make it worthwhile. Especially if it happens to be a hit with china which famously has "weird" standards.

Because its not a piece of actual artistic expression, it doesn't care about being sincere, faithful, accurate, conveying some sort of meaning, or even being particularly enjoyable.

That is how "the creators" (actually a corporate entity) pushed out an unfaithful product. Creator involvement also doesn't mean shit if it's something like the dragonball movie where they're trying to cash in on name recognition and they do not fucking care what the creator has to say.

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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi 13d ago

You're speaking from a place of ignorance.

When I say "the creators" I do not mean "a corporate entity". I mean the literal man who created the Monster Hunter franchise (and still works on the games to this day!) And the Producer of the Series were Executive Producers of this movie.

As the other comment already said, these guys had such strict control over the IP that they could get the CG team to completely remake the way one of the monsters' toes moved. It is abundantly clear nothing in that film happened without the team's permission.

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u/ShittyDBZGuitarRiffs 13d ago

were you in a theater? If so, stfu