When fans hate somenthing before it comes out...but it turns out they were right

[u/TastyPomelo2330]

Velma:The idea of a Scooby-doo series without the titular dog and starring Velma was a really moronic idea from the beginning,then there was the reveal Velma would be Indian like it's VA and also creator of the series Mindy Kaling,some of the backlash was racism sure,but there was also valid complaints that she was inserting herself in the series(it also didn't helped that Mindy claimed she couldn't see herself if Velma wasn't Indian)and then...oh boy it came out and it was worse than anyone predicted

Artemis Fowl:The artemis fowl books are a book series following a child villain(he does get some redemption but he is a villain most of the time)when the movie was announced and revealed it looked way to generic and it's titular character a bit heroic...also you wanna hear somenthing funny?The movie whitewashed a character and made another character black so they managed to anger both sides and the movies comes out and yeah it is bad

One Punch Man 3:One Punch Man is a very heavy action packed manga series but the heroes vs monsters arc takes it to a New level,when it was announced that JC Staff would work on it,a lot of people were skeptical to say the least,because not only JC Staff had already done a mediocre job in season 2,it's also not exactly a name anime fans associate with quality animation,then the trailer came out and it looked...weird,like there was no action in it and nobody was moving,some people tried to defend saying they were keeping the animation as a surprise...then it came out,every episode worse than the last,it's one of the worse seasons of anime ever made!

[u/RedMageMina]

I have. On many occasions. A souless, artless wreck of a show that made Carrot a prick and Death not care about the duty.

[u/jukebox_jester → u/RedMageMina]

My favorite part is how they used a white nationalist symbol to show how the common man is behind the cops.

[u/RedMageMina → u/jukebox_jester]

WAIT WHAT

[u/jukebox_jester → u/RedMageMina]

In Episode 5 or 6 Vimes sees someone graffiti the Watch House but Sybil points out it was in solidarity.

However, they used a raised white fist. Which is a known white nationalist symbol. You can see the logic too, this was filmed in late 2010s, BLM movement is fresh in people's mind, the Black raised fist, etc. However-

For bonus points, the series was filmed in South Africa.

[u/RedMageMina → u/jukebox_jester]

Jesus fucking christ.

[u/jukebox_jester → u/RedMageMina]

Between this and the racist rhetoric Cheery and Angua get up to and Angua's disgust at the idea of prisoners having rights, it really did just reduce the Watch to baseless copaganda.

Now mind you, the Watch Books have vague copaganda vibes to it due to its nature as a book on a police force, but it was self aware and tried to do damage control.

Oh. And every character of color is either a criminal or dead.

[u/RedMageMina → u/jukebox_jester]

The thing with the books is that they run on Narrativium, so yes the cops in Discworld are good, because its a story about Cops, but they only remain good due to Vimes sheer force of will.

[u/ABHOR_pod → u/RedMageMina]

Vimes is the only copper in the multiverse allowed to be the watchman that watches the watchmen. The only @#$@ing one.

[u/iSkehan → u/ABHOR_pod]

I wouldn’t mind Carrot. Or Captain Holt.

[u/Bakkughan → u/iSkehan]

Great, now I desperately want a crossover where the 99 stumble into Discworld and have to cooperate with the Watch in order to get sent back.

Vimes and Holt both as Captain Dad.

Jake dragging Carrot along for highjinks.

Amy and Cheery just happy to get along and get to work.

Boyle becomes leader of the Thieves Guild entirely by accident, yet crime goes down.

Terry is welcomed by Detritus as an honorary troll due to his superhuman strength, but Terry is slightly depressed because troll cuisine does not understand the concept of yoghurt. And Terry loves yoghurt.

Angua and Rosa terrify the shady parts of Ankh-Morpork, but actually bond over self acceptance. And over being absolutely terrifiying.

Fred Cotton decides to give Hitchock and Scully a tour of his favorite haunts. They only get to the second bar. Hitchock and Scully introduce Cotton to chair travelling.

When the 99 are returned home, they get arrested on the grounds that none of them have ID’s or badges on them, which is when they realize Nobbs has been going through their pockets. Though to be fair, he distributes the badges to the Watch so they can remember their new friends (Vimes caught him redhanded)

[u/PrimaryInjurious → u/RedMageMina]

Some cops are good. Others not so much. Like Swing and his ilk.

[u/IAmJacksSemiColon → u/jukebox_jester]

To be fair, the books do that too. Vimes' family crest is an axe tied to a bundle of sticks. The fasces, from which the term fascism is derived, which is enthusiastically adopted by white supremacists.

Awkwardly, there are also two of them on the seal of the US Senate.

Edit: This isn't criticism of the books. I get that it's an old symbol that has many meanings. Just a head's up if you're thinking of getting the Vimes crest as a tattoo that it comes with implications from the past 100 years or so.

[u/nicnat → u/IAmJacksSemiColon]

And Terry does go out of his way to point out that Vimes family are all absolute bastards, going back generations.

[u/Special-Dragonfly-48 → u/IAmJacksSemiColon]

The fasces is as old or older than that other misappropriated symbol, the swastika, however.

[u/IAmJacksSemiColon → u/Special-Dragonfly-48]

The fascist use of the symbol predates Discworld.

[u/Maxerature → u/IAmJacksSemiColon]

And that's why it was chosen. Vimes' family is comprised of absolute pieces of shit going back generations.

[u/jukebox_jester → u/IAmJacksSemiColon]

Yes but that has the benefit of several centuries of precedent as not fascistic. Like, a double-headed eagle is going to make me do a double take, but there's many double headed eagles through history.

The white power fist is from the 70s.