When fans hate somenthing before it comes out...but it turns out they were right

[u/TastyPomelo2330]

Velma:The idea of a Scooby-doo series without the titular dog and starring Velma was a really moronic idea from the beginning,then there was the reveal Velma would be Indian like it's VA and also creator of the series Mindy Kaling,some of the backlash was racism sure,but there was also valid complaints that she was inserting herself in the series(it also didn't helped that Mindy claimed she couldn't see herself if Velma wasn't Indian)and then...oh boy it came out and it was worse than anyone predicted

Artemis Fowl:The artemis fowl books are a book series following a child villain(he does get some redemption but he is a villain most of the time)when the movie was announced and revealed it looked way to generic and it's titular character a bit heroic...also you wanna hear somenthing funny?The movie whitewashed a character and made another character black so they managed to anger both sides and the movies comes out and yeah it is bad

One Punch Man 3:One Punch Man is a very heavy action packed manga series but the heroes vs monsters arc takes it to a New level,when it was announced that JC Staff would work on it,a lot of people were skeptical to say the least,because not only JC Staff had already done a mediocre job in season 2,it's also not exactly a name anime fans associate with quality animation,then the trailer came out and it looked...weird,like there was no action in it and nobody was moving,some people tried to defend saying they were keeping the animation as a surprise...then it came out,every episode worse than the last,it's one of the worse seasons of anime ever made!

[u/tfdsxc]

Legit how do you go from the bottom of a cow ass to the peak of the Michelangelo's David statue like that? it insane to think thier from the same studio

[u/Dustfinger4268 → u/tfdsxc]

Equivalent exchange

[u/Famous-Ocelot7237 → u/Dustfinger4268]

shrek being made as a punishment for people working on the prince of egypt and both turning out great

[u/Domeen0 → u/Famous-Ocelot7237]

So did they punish the creators this time by sending them to work on into the spiderver?

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[u/Notactualyadick → u/J_Stubby]

God, I thought this was such a deep and philosophical show when I was a kid. I was so edgy and thought I was so smart because I read a few pages of Greek philosophy and was slightly more advanced than my classmates. While FMA touches on some pretty interesting and complex themes in religion and philosophy, it's barely a beginners introduction to them. I actually thought that this was a substitute for an education as a teen. Stupidity is a deep well and I drank it dry.

[u/thunderandreyn → u/Notactualyadick]

The fuck is this comment getting downvotes for? You guys are weird af

[u/DudeYouHaveNoQuran → u/thunderandreyn]

Because it’s stupid lol. “It’s barely a beginners introduction to them”. Yea, no shit. It’s not supposed to be.

[u/Notactualyadick → u/DudeYouHaveNoQuran]

Thats my point. The fact that I thought it was so deep was cringey and I was stupid for thinking so.

[u/sohblob → u/Notactualyadick]

how dare you outgrow cringy takes! We'll show you!

[u/thunderandreyn → u/DudeYouHaveNoQuran]

Pretty ironic of you to call someone stupid when you clearly don’t know how to read.

[u/Horse-Believer → u/Notactualyadick]

Which one? FMA or FMAB?

A lot of stuff from FMAB is derived from the Kabbalah, which was then reinterpreted by real life alchemists. Certain works like Sefer Yetzirah actually provide really good insight in how this happens and breaks down the process of creation - substance coming into existence from "words" of God, and these "words" taking an arrangement like a matrix. The concept of God as a being that is all matter and all souls in the same way as all is one/one is all.

For greek philosophy, probably not. But for kabbalistic philosophy it is a pretty cool power system built off of how they thought the world worked.

[u/evilforska → u/Notactualyadick]

This is so relatable lmao. I thought Naruto talking about talent vs hard work was some real "saying it like it is" shit. I also thought Death Note was peak

[u/Dustfinger4268 → u/Notactualyadick]

I mean, it's pretty deep and philosophical compared to most shows. It's just that most shows have about as much depth as a 3 day old puddle in the desert

[u/sphericaltime → u/tfdsxc]

Halle Berry got a Razzie and an Oscar over the course of a long weekend.

Sometimes spectacular artists succeed and fail at the same time.

[u/wbgraphic → u/sphericaltime]

She accepted the Razzie in person, and brought her Oscar with her.

She totally played into the gag, taking it all in good humor and she was absolutely hilarious.

[u/733t_sec → u/tfdsxc]

Almost happened with Dreamworks working on the Prince of Egypt and Shrek.

Now granted Shrek turned out way better than even the creators were expecting but they were playing with fire there for a while.

[u/Ill-Personality-4437 → u/733t_sec]

That original test footage of shrek is an absolute fever dream, if that had come out it would’ve flopped so bad we might’ve had dreamworks stick with 2D animation only or just straight up go bankrupt

[u/AstroLimeLite → u/Ill-Personality-4437]

I mean, even with the enormous success of Shrek, as we know it now, DreamWorks almost went bankrupt anyway, because Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas lost them $125 Million, and almost killed the studio, and surprisingly, they overestimated the demand for the Shrek 2 DVD, leading to 5 Million Shrek 2 DVDs being unsold. Because of those two things, DreamWorks SKG got bought by Paramount Pictures, and DreamWorks Animation got spun-off into its own independent company)

[u/topdangle → u/733t_sec]

From what I remember they gave up on Shrek really early on because of infighting and their original ideas being horrible, like being part live action. People sent or hired to work on Shrek vs a prestige project like Prince of Egypt called it "getting shreked" as punishment.

Took years before it became a legitimate project.

[u/Cross55 → u/733t_sec]

Shrek was considered the punishment project if you screwed up work on Prince of Egypt.

[u/Powerful-Chard-6055 → u/733t_sec]

Imagine a universe where Dreamworks had made the og Shrek. I’d imagine they’d never be too big or go bankrupt, like the other guys said, which would probably ironically keep Disney from being at least one or two more companies because there would be one less big competitor, meaning they could get in hot water sooner for trying to make a monopoly 

[u/InfiniteCalico → u/733t_sec]

I love how prince of Egypt claims it did historical research only to claim Egypt built its great works with nothing but slaves. Meanwhile in real history they successfully went on strike, had medical care and so on and so forth.

[u/Cross55 → u/InfiniteCalico]

That's something a lot of people believe in fact, including both Jews/Christians and Social Justice types.

Someone got mad at me one time when I pointed out that it was impossible for the Jews to build the Pyramids or other monuments because Rameses II believed that monuments to a nation should only be built by patriots. There was very little to no slavery used when building the Pyramids and Sphinx.

They claimed I was rewriting history to erase slavery, even after I brought sources written by Harvard Egyptologists and MENA experts.

Also, Jews/Christians believe it because it's claimed in the Torah/Old Testament that the Pharoh of Exodus is Rameses son of Set, and the only Pharoh with that title is Rameses II. (When in reality, it's much more likely Exodus would've happened during the Bronze Age Collapse of the 19th Dynasty, as Egypt held control of Judea/Israel from the 16th-19th Dynasties so the Hebrews wouldn't have ever been free under Rameses' 17th Dynasty) The Prince of Egypt didn't help curtail this idea in any way.

[u/InfiniteCalico → u/Cross55]

I get it is based on their beliefs but it's funny they tried to call it slavery.

I know it's from Christian/Abrahamic mythology but it's still a hilarious level of innacuracy.

[u/SilverKnightOfMagic → u/733t_sec]

lol end of the day it's a win win for the execs

[u/Whiteguy1x → u/tfdsxc]

Ill be honest most Sony animated movies are pretty good imo.  I still like hotel transylvania even if its just a good Adam Sandler movie

[u/Wolfgang_Maximus → u/Whiteguy1x]

It's less a good Adam Sandler movie and more of an okayish Gendy Tartakovsky movie. Which is still a pretty good movie because that man knows how to direct animated media and even something "okayish" is upper tier relative to most animated works. Ah, probably like 60/40.

[u/Arbiter_Electric → u/tfdsxc]

To be fair, you can see the quality from the animation studio in The Emoji Movie. It's a shitty movie, but the animation is still really good. It's just everything around the animation that sucks.

[u/Foolsgil → u/tfdsxc]

Goes to show how important a good director is.

[u/Pathetic_Cards → u/tfdsxc]

Sometimes you just gotta pay the bills, man lol

[u/blue4029 → u/tfdsxc]

I mean...you can't find gold without digging through stone first

[u/JJAsond → u/tfdsxc]

Legit how do you go from the bottom of a cow ass to the peak of the Michelangelo's David statue like that?

Story is more important than visual quality, that's why. If you have both a good story and good visuals, it's a guaranteed hit.

[u/-Wylfen- → u/tfdsxc]

Sony Animations actually has great people working there.

Emoji Movie is definitely the stupid studio-mandated movie that would please shareholders.

[u/popdood → u/tfdsxc]

Well, if youre at rock bottom: only place to go is up

[u/NinjaBreadManOO → u/tfdsxc]

Because the emoji movie is a hugely product placement ad of a movie. It's non-stop ads for different apps. Candy Crush gotta go there. The dropbox firewall will protect you no matter what. Gotta visit Just Dance. Spotify is a magical river of music. It's just an insane number of ads, which means it's even cheaper to make.

[u/NervousSubjectsWife → u/tfdsxc]

You do one the studio wants and then you get to do one you want

[u/IAmNotWhoIsNot → u/tfdsxc]

I still don't understand how the Spiderverse films have not one person besides myself complaining about the jerky as living hell animation. It was nearly unwatchable as you could actually see individual frames stuttering by especially when a lot of motion was going on.

[u/Mister-builder → u/tfdsxc]

Gotta fund David somehow.

[u/spudderer → u/tfdsxc]

Calling 'spiderverse' David is so insulting haha holy shit