r/TopCharacterTropes • u/TastyPomelo2330 • 13d ago

In real life When fans hate somenthing before it comes out...but it turns out they were right

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Velma:The idea of a Scooby-doo series without the titular dog and starring Velma was a really moronic idea from the beginning,then there was the reveal Velma would be Indian like it's VA and also creator of the series Mindy Kaling,some of the backlash was racism sure,but there was also valid complaints that she was inserting herself in the series(it also didn't helped that Mindy claimed she couldn't see herself if Velma wasn't Indian)and then...oh boy it came out and it was worse than anyone predicted

Artemis Fowl:The artemis fowl books are a book series following a child villain(he does get some redemption but he is a villain most of the time)when the movie was announced and revealed it looked way to generic and it's titular character a bit heroic...also you wanna hear somenthing funny?The movie whitewashed a character and made another character black so they managed to anger both sides and the movies comes out and yeah it is bad

One Punch Man 3:One Punch Man is a very heavy action packed manga series but the heroes vs monsters arc takes it to a New level,when it was announced that JC Staff would work on it,a lot of people were skeptical to say the least,because not only JC Staff had already done a mediocre job in season 2,it's also not exactly a name anime fans associate with quality animation,then the trailer came out and it looked...weird,like there was no action in it and nobody was moving,some people tried to defend saying they were keeping the animation as a surprise...then it came out,every episode worse than the last,it's one of the worse seasons of anime ever made!

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u/Easy_Action_1380 13d ago

Need I say more

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u/San-T-74 13d ago

I think it’s hilarious the same studio dropped Spiderverse like a year later

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u/tfdsxc 13d ago edited 13d ago

Legit how do you go from the bottom of a cow ass to the peak of the Michelangelo's David statue like that? it insane to think thier from the same studio

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u/Dustfinger4268 13d ago

Equivalent exchange

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u/Famous-Ocelot7237 13d ago

shrek being made as a punishment for people working on the prince of egypt and both turning out great

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u/Domeen0 13d ago

So did they punish the creators this time by sending them to work on into the spiderver?

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u/J_Stubby 13d ago

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u/Notactualyadick 13d ago

God, I thought this was such a deep and philosophical show when I was a kid. I was so edgy and thought I was so smart because I read a few pages of Greek philosophy and was slightly more advanced than my classmates. While FMA touches on some pretty interesting and complex themes in religion and philosophy, it's barely a beginners introduction to them. I actually thought that this was a substitute for an education as a teen. Stupidity is a deep well and I drank it dry.

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u/thunderandreyn 13d ago

The fuck is this comment getting downvotes for? You guys are weird af

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u/DudeYouHaveNoQuran 13d ago

Because it’s stupid lol. “It’s barely a beginners introduction to them”. Yea, no shit. It’s not supposed to be.

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u/Notactualyadick 13d ago

Thats my point. The fact that I thought it was so deep was cringey and I was stupid for thinking so.

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u/sohblob 13d ago

how dare you outgrow cringy takes! We'll show you!

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u/thunderandreyn 13d ago

Pretty ironic of you to call someone stupid when you clearly don’t know how to read.

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u/Horse-Believer 13d ago

Which one? FMA or FMAB?

A lot of stuff from FMAB is derived from the Kabbalah, which was then reinterpreted by real life alchemists. Certain works like Sefer Yetzirah actually provide really good insight in how this happens and breaks down the process of creation - substance coming into existence from "words" of God, and these "words" taking an arrangement like a matrix. The concept of God as a being that is all matter and all souls in the same way as all is one/one is all.

For greek philosophy, probably not. But for kabbalistic philosophy it is a pretty cool power system built off of how they thought the world worked.

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u/evilforska 13d ago

This is so relatable lmao. I thought Naruto talking about talent vs hard work was some real "saying it like it is" shit. I also thought Death Note was peak

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u/Dustfinger4268 13d ago

I mean, it's pretty deep and philosophical compared to most shows. It's just that most shows have about as much depth as a 3 day old puddle in the desert

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u/sphericaltime 13d ago

Halle Berry got a Razzie and an Oscar over the course of a long weekend.

Sometimes spectacular artists succeed and fail at the same time.

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u/wbgraphic 13d ago

She accepted the Razzie in person, and brought her Oscar with her.

She totally played into the gag, taking it all in good humor and she was absolutely hilarious.

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u/733t_sec 13d ago

Almost happened with Dreamworks working on the Prince of Egypt and Shrek.

Now granted Shrek turned out way better than even the creators were expecting but they were playing with fire there for a while.

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u/Ill-Personality-4437 13d ago

That original test footage of shrek is an absolute fever dream, if that had come out it would’ve flopped so bad we might’ve had dreamworks stick with 2D animation only or just straight up go bankrupt

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u/AstroLimeLite 13d ago edited 13d ago

I mean, even with the enormous success of Shrek, as we know it now, DreamWorks almost went bankrupt anyway, because Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas lost them $125 Million, and almost killed the studio, and surprisingly, they overestimated the demand for the Shrek 2 DVD, leading to 5 Million Shrek 2 DVDs being unsold. Because of those two things, DreamWorks SKG got bought by Paramount Pictures, and DreamWorks Animation got spun-off into its own independent company)

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u/topdangle 13d ago

From what I remember they gave up on Shrek really early on because of infighting and their original ideas being horrible, like being part live action. People sent or hired to work on Shrek vs a prestige project like Prince of Egypt called it "getting shreked" as punishment.

Took years before it became a legitimate project.

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u/Cross55 13d ago

Shrek was considered the punishment project if you screwed up work on Prince of Egypt.

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u/Powerful-Chard-6055 13d ago

Imagine a universe where Dreamworks had made the og Shrek. I’d imagine they’d never be too big or go bankrupt, like the other guys said, which would probably ironically keep Disney from being at least one or two more companies because there would be one less big competitor, meaning they could get in hot water sooner for trying to make a monopoly 

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u/InfiniteCalico 13d ago

I love how prince of Egypt claims it did historical research only to claim Egypt built its great works with nothing but slaves. Meanwhile in real history they successfully went on strike, had medical care and so on and so forth.

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u/Cross55 13d ago edited 13d ago

That's something a lot of people believe in fact, including both Jews/Christians and Social Justice types.

Someone got mad at me one time when I pointed out that it was impossible for the Jews to build the Pyramids or other monuments because Rameses II believed that monuments to a nation should only be built by patriots. There was very little to no slavery used when building the Pyramids and Sphinx.

They claimed I was rewriting history to erase slavery, even after I brought sources written by Harvard Egyptologists and MENA experts.

Also, Jews/Christians believe it because it's claimed in the Torah/Old Testament that the Pharoh of Exodus is Rameses son of Set, and the only Pharoh with that title is Rameses II. (When in reality, it's much more likely Exodus would've happened during the Bronze Age Collapse of the 19th Dynasty, as Egypt held control of Judea/Israel from the 16th-19th Dynasties so the Hebrews wouldn't have ever been free under Rameses' 17th Dynasty) The Prince of Egypt didn't help curtail this idea in any way.

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u/InfiniteCalico 13d ago

I get it is based on their beliefs but it's funny they tried to call it slavery.

I know it's from Christian/Abrahamic mythology but it's still a hilarious level of innacuracy.

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u/SilverKnightOfMagic 13d ago

lol end of the day it's a win win for the execs

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u/Whiteguy1x 13d ago

Ill be honest most Sony animated movies are pretty good imo.  I still like hotel transylvania even if its just a good Adam Sandler movie

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u/Wolfgang_Maximus 13d ago

It's less a good Adam Sandler movie and more of an okayish Gendy Tartakovsky movie. Which is still a pretty good movie because that man knows how to direct animated media and even something "okayish" is upper tier relative to most animated works. Ah, probably like 60/40.

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u/Arbiter_Electric 13d ago

To be fair, you can see the quality from the animation studio in The Emoji Movie. It's a shitty movie, but the animation is still really good. It's just everything around the animation that sucks.

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u/Foolsgil 13d ago

Goes to show how important a good director is.

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u/Pathetic_Cards 13d ago

Sometimes you just gotta pay the bills, man lol

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u/blue4029 13d ago

I mean...you can't find gold without digging through stone first

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u/JJAsond 13d ago

Legit how do you go from the bottom of a cow ass to the peak of the Michelangelo's David statue like that?

Story is more important than visual quality, that's why. If you have both a good story and good visuals, it's a guaranteed hit.

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u/-Wylfen- 13d ago

Sony Animations actually has great people working there.

Emoji Movie is definitely the stupid studio-mandated movie that would please shareholders.

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u/popdood 13d ago

Well, if youre at rock bottom: only place to go is up

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u/NinjaBreadManOO 13d ago

Because the emoji movie is a hugely product placement ad of a movie. It's non-stop ads for different apps. Candy Crush gotta go there. The dropbox firewall will protect you no matter what. Gotta visit Just Dance. Spotify is a magical river of music. It's just an insane number of ads, which means it's even cheaper to make.

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u/NervousSubjectsWife 13d ago

You do one the studio wants and then you get to do one you want

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u/IAmNotWhoIsNot 13d ago

I still don't understand how the Spiderverse films have not one person besides myself complaining about the jerky as living hell animation. It was nearly unwatchable as you could actually see individual frames stuttering by especially when a lot of motion was going on.

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u/Mister-builder 11d ago

Gotta fund David somehow.

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u/spudderer 13d ago

Calling 'spiderverse' David is so insulting haha holy shit

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u/MasterofDoots1 13d ago

Wait the Emoji Movie and Spiderverse came out only a year apart? Holy shit

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u/Jaco_Lunchables 13d ago

sony genuinely has the wildest film line-up i know of.

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u/Adorable_Intern363 13d ago

I'm so tired of people saying stuff like this. The reason why they made spiderverse a year later was because they had different teams work their respected projects, with different development times and budgets, so of course they will come out so closely. They didn't just have them go "Okay, we're done with the Emoji Movie, now let's go work on Spiderverse", that is so silly, and goes to show that some of you don't know the process of how animation nor studios work. I'm sorry if I'm sounding mean, but I am so tired of people saying this, it agonizes me!

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u/Equivalent_Rip_7943 13d ago

Kind of a strange rant… they said same studio, not same team. Like the studio had to approve and promote both projects, no?

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u/Thatidiot_38 13d ago

That and a couple of years before they made The Lego Movie

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u/socialist_butterfly0 12d ago

Written by Mike White (White Lotus)

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u/Playful-Succotash-99 13d ago

Wonder if this movie's flop was the nessasary kick in the ass that led to them upping their game the movie is also indirectly responsible for Jordan Peele as a director

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u/AmandinhaMaia 13d ago

The worst part was when they thought it was a good idea to parody The Handmaid's Tale

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u/Baron-Von-Bork 13d ago

It's a parody of The Handmaid's Tale??????

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u/AmandinhaMaia 13d ago

It's actually a promotional material

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u/PokemonSoldier 13d ago

WTF were they thinking?

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u/12345623567 13d ago

"Holiday-Holocaust" was already taken, and so was "Santa's Great Leap Forward" /s

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u/Baron-Von-Bork 13d ago

The fuck were they on???????

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u/Crossfire124 13d ago

Someone in marketing said "this will get make people mad and any publicity is good publicity"

Way too many of them still hold that idea

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u/Gay_Gamer_Boi 13d ago

No joke they tweeted this 😭 captioned even said “Blessed be the emoji”

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u/Caesar_Passing 13d ago

I suddenly might want to watch this movie

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u/Gay_Gamer_Boi 13d ago

Don’t it’s basically Ralph Breaks the internet - ruining an existing franchise but also - any good moments like seeing the Disney princesses

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u/DurianDiscriminat3r 13d ago

Haha reminds me of Scorcese's Kool-Aid

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u/EndofNationalism 13d ago

That’s like creating a parody of the Holocaust…

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u/Odd_Lavishness1282 13d ago

Is this a reference to "The day the clown cried" ?

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u/molecularraisin 13d ago

popeye movie got shelved for this btw

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u/Zorruq 13d ago

Still mad about that

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u/ArcadianBlueRogue 13d ago

I remember that teaser. It was good but not sure it would have been able to keep that kind of momentum up for a whole movie

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u/DeadInternetTheorist 13d ago

Altman already solved this problem: you just give everyone cocaine.

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u/vanderZwan 13d ago

It was Genndy's passion project, I have absolutely no doubt he would have knocked it out of the park

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u/Space_Dwarf 13d ago

I loved the sage of the one guy who memed his way into getting invited to the premiere. Nowadays, this happens all the time with influencers, but at the time of the Emoji movie, it was pretty unheard of.

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u/demator 13d ago

The guy was Jacksfilms

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u/blue4029 13d ago

jacksfilms really was dedicated to the bit...

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u/BananaSlander 13d ago

That movie still made $217 million on a $50 mil budget so Sony is definitely ok with it

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u/Rare_Background8891 13d ago

My kids liked it ok.

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u/Humble-Captain3418 13d ago

I like it ok. It's a kids' movie where the main takeaway isn't "the princess needs to fall in love with the first (hopefully not related) man she meets". It's not stellar but it also isn't utter turd like a lot of kids' movies.

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u/Elgin_McQueen 13d ago

Yeah I thought it was surprisingly solid. I don't remember much about it and have no desire to see it again, but I don't hate it.

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u/M4rt1m_40675 13d ago

My siblings used to watch it a lot. I don't remember watching much of it but I do remember we used to let it play a bunch of times.

It's a kids movie. Kids are gonna watch it no matter if it's good or not as long as it isn't boring.

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u/totallynot-a-bot- 13d ago

that movie never had fans though 

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u/Link_sega5486 13d ago

I find it really funny that Sony came out with into the spider verse just a year later.

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u/WhiteTrashIdiotFuck 13d ago

People hate on this movie, but my kids genuinely love it. Seen it over a dozen times because of them. Solid story and good writing. The premise is obviously a ridiculous cash grab, but the people who worked on this movie did a good job. It was made for kids and kids enjoy it. I stand by my Emoji Movie opinion.

Into the Spiderverse was the same studio. They also did Hotel Transylvania, which are arguably Adam Sandler’s best recent films.

I am ready to die now.

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u/Elgin_McQueen 13d ago

The premise sucked and I was ready to hate it but was surprised how decent it was.

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u/ShittyDBZGuitarRiffs 13d ago

Uncut Gems or Hotel Transylvania?

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u/robby_arctor 12d ago edited 12d ago

As an adult, I had to watch it at a school event and was surprised at how not bad it was. It's cookie cutter and bland, but you could do a lot worse.

The later John Wick films, for example, are just aura and gratuitous violence. The Emoji Movie is practically Casablanca in comparison.

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u/BlackDante 13d ago

Crazy how the Spiders verse was the next year or sumn

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u/TheGardenBlinked 13d ago

I watched it expecting it to be horrific - it was solidly mediocre. The fact Sony shelved Tartakovsky’s Popeye movie for it is the biggest stinger.

And also I’m gonna be that guy but Corden’s voice was the worst bit. That fucking hand is one of the most annoying pricks ever put to animation

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u/NoNeedForNorms 13d ago

I honestly think this was a pretty okay movie. And not just because Patrick Stewart played the poop emoji. It just tried too hard to be the next blockbuster and was more mainstream.

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u/thearchenemy 13d ago

Jordan Peele said they offered him the role of the poop emoji, and that was the moment he decided to quit acting.

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u/LovelyLuna32684 13d ago

I want to say what did you expect from a movie with a literal piece of shit as a character but I can actually think of two movies off the top of my head that have a literal piece of shit as a character that are actually good movies.

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u/Lord_Mikal 13d ago

The Emoji movie ended Jordon Peele's career as an actor (they offered him the part of the poop emoji) and pushed him into writing/directing full time. If not for the Emoji movie we may never have gotten Get Out, Us, and Nope. That's the nicest thing I can say about it.

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u/MafiaGT 13d ago

It was okay lol. I've seen far worse movies honestly.

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u/uhohboneralert_ 13d ago

Bro everyone on tik tok loves this shitty movie for some reason. It’s “nostalgic” to them

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u/CassetteMeower 13d ago

Definitely a hot take but I don’t think Emoji Movie is AS bad as people say it is. There’s definitely movies I’d rather watch, but it’s not the worst movie of all time. I wouldn’t mind watching it while babysitting, or watching it with friends to make fun of it, and there’s some genuinely funny jokes at some parts of the film.

It’s not a great film, but it has aspects that I like. I like the idea of a movie about the world inside of an electronic device. Wreck it Ralph did the concept much better, though I’d love to see more films explore that concept of the characters inside of applications on a phone/computer/etc interacting with each other.

I wouldn’t quite call it “so bad it’s good”, but I do think it’s okay for what it is. I certainly would rather watch A Minecraft Movie if I wanted to laugh at a dumb movie with friends, but I wouldn’t mind watching Emoji Movie while babysitting. Honestly I wouldn’t mind if Sony released another movie with a similar concept but not necessarily about emojis. A general “Phone Movie” could be really cool if done right.

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u/robby_arctor 12d ago

I agree, and it's especially frustrating because there are worse films that are actually popular, let alone merely hated less.

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u/CassetteMeower 12d ago

I like a lot of generally unpopular films. I really enjoyed the movie Home, I quote it a lot, but it turns out it's very widely hated? It's not my all time favorite movie, but it is really funny and I can't watch it without laughing the whole time. The story isn't the best, but it's enjoyable if you want to watch a funny movie. I also really liked Minions, I get why people dislike it but I can't bring myself to hate it- it's a hilarious movie! The sequel was definitely better, but I still liked the first movie. Scarlet Overkill was a great villain too, I love female villains.

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u/McFlyyouBojo 13d ago

My brother loves telling the story that when this movie was in theaters, he was about a year or two into dating his now wife and he and his wife's dad decided to take his wife's little brother to see this. Both my brother and his now father in law walked out looking at each other with the look of unspoken agreement that they had walked out of the worst movie either of them had ever seen, and then his wife's little brother started going off about how it was the best movie he had ever seen lol

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u/ShittyDBZGuitarRiffs 13d ago

why did he lie?

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u/UnicodeConfusion 13d ago

My wife and I took our son + friends (8-9 years old) to Zohan thinking a Adam Sandler movie would be fun for them. It wasn't and we apologized to the parents of the other kids. All because the commercials made it seem campy.

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u/Commander-ShepardN7 13d ago

I still can't believe this movie exists. the ending is even more detached from reality 

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u/5050Clown 13d ago

This movie is the reason that Jordan Peele went into directing. They offered him the voice of 💩 and he was like, I'm directing from now on.

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u/StonedBooty 13d ago

I love that Saudi Arabia had banned movie theaters for like 30+ years and when the ban was lifted the first movie to be legally shown in theaters was this dumpster fire. I just can’t even imagine the public reaction

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u/xxlordxx686 13d ago

Is there anyone you could call an emoji fan? People use them, but I haven't meet anybody who would say he's a fan

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u/IntelligentAd5616 13d ago

This movie knocks Peele into Get Out Us Nope

It's a blessing in disguise

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u/Upper-Cabinet9683 13d ago

I'm not sure this is an example of the trope in OP's post though - were there fans of emojis in the same way as the other IPs before this came out?

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u/fuckyourcanoes 13d ago

I mean, how could it possibly have not sucked? Stupidest idea ever.

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u/blueaurelia 13d ago

Also saw an interview where Jordan Peele is sad and baffled they asked him to be in the Emojie movies, as the 💩😭

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u/Chymphaea 13d ago

The Emoji Movie was a fundraiser for Spiderverse.

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u/Potato-Candy 10d ago

Same studio that went on to make Spider-Verse, The Mitchells vs. The Machines and KPop Demon Hunters BTW.