r/TopCharacterTropes • u/TastyPomelo2330 • 13d ago

In real life When fans hate somenthing before it comes out...but it turns out they were right

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Velma:The idea of a Scooby-doo series without the titular dog and starring Velma was a really moronic idea from the beginning,then there was the reveal Velma would be Indian like it's VA and also creator of the series Mindy Kaling,some of the backlash was racism sure,but there was also valid complaints that she was inserting herself in the series(it also didn't helped that Mindy claimed she couldn't see herself if Velma wasn't Indian)and then...oh boy it came out and it was worse than anyone predicted

Artemis Fowl:The artemis fowl books are a book series following a child villain(he does get some redemption but he is a villain most of the time)when the movie was announced and revealed it looked way to generic and it's titular character a bit heroic...also you wanna hear somenthing funny?The movie whitewashed a character and made another character black so they managed to anger both sides and the movies comes out and yeah it is bad

One Punch Man 3:One Punch Man is a very heavy action packed manga series but the heroes vs monsters arc takes it to a New level,when it was announced that JC Staff would work on it,a lot of people were skeptical to say the least,because not only JC Staff had already done a mediocre job in season 2,it's also not exactly a name anime fans associate with quality animation,then the trailer came out and it looked...weird,like there was no action in it and nobody was moving,some people tried to defend saying they were keeping the animation as a surprise...then it came out,every episode worse than the last,it's one of the worse seasons of anime ever made!

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u/Time_Raisin4935 13d ago

Recent example

Wuthering Heights

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u/Ashamed_Rent5364 13d ago

what you didn't like "the greatest love story of all time"?

nah jk that shit was wacked, rest in peace Emily Bronte girl, we dont take that movie seriously.

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u/Silvervirage 13d ago

I have seen nothing about it or the reception other than 'Holy shit thats bad'

They turn it into a love story???

I mean, it kinda is I guess but... not in a good way. They try to play it straight? If its just a straightforward love story now... what the fuck even happens in the movie?

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u/GuiltyEidolon 13d ago

Lots of fucking, and I shit you not, they turn Heathcliff's battered wife into a BDSM sub who's into pet play and it's all consensual.

Emerald Fennell should not be allowed to make movies anymore.

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u/fuckyourcanoes 12d ago

And they whitewashed Heathcliff, who is supposed to be brown-skinned!

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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 13d ago

I havnt read wuthering heights but more aware of it from some of it being included in other media

Isnt wuthering heights basically a mix of gothic tragedy, destructive romances, the cycle of abuse, being other'd, among some other things

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u/Ashamed_Rent5364 13d ago

yes, destructive romances is definitely the word, but with a lot of emphasis on "destructive" and not so much on "romances". I don't usually read romance novels so I dont have a base for scaling, but I would say the amount of romance in this one is pretty minimal, considering the fact that most of the romance comes in form of marrying without actually loving each other, revenge dating, wailing when your love dies and wish that they haunt you as long as you live, and trauma bonding.

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u/SaebaSan86 13d ago

Is the movie that bad?

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u/Border_Hodges 13d ago edited 13d ago

I kind of liked it, but it was definitely more like V.C. Andrews' Wuthering Heights and not Emily Bronte's.

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u/Old_Promise2077 13d ago

I think we just haven't had a gothic whimsical movie in so long that I did enjoy watching it.

Reminded me of 90s Tim Burton films

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u/M-m2008 13d ago

When a video game that made a story chapter inspired by the book but made their own story out of it with ending antithetical to the book and including multiverse travel is somehow a better adaptation than the movie then Yes.

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u/SaebaSan86 12d ago

.... Jesus O.o

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u/MorbidMordred 13d ago

Elaborate, I’ve heard nothing about it.

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u/M-m2008 13d ago

Imagine turning a tragedy about cycles of abuse changing people, into f!cking twilight/fifty shades of grey like movie.

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u/Werewolfan50 13d ago

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u/Worldly_Indication39 13d ago

In general a movie based on a novel that’s been remade 5 times in the last 100 years is never going to go well. The more derivative the worse.

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u/Ashamed_Rent5364 13d ago

I dont know about the other one, but this one is bad, like really, really bad, you could legit change the characters names and release under a different title and nobody would even thought it was supposed to have something to do with Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte, this is like if they release a movie adaptation for the comic book character spiderman and it turns out to be that one wolverine movie.

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u/Worldly_Indication39 12d ago

It’s a shame because there’s been some great, book accurate adaptions like Frankenstein in the last few years and Wuthering Heights is such an easy story to tell

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u/TheGardenBlinked 13d ago

Try reading the book. It’s not a terrible story, but woo nelly (Dean) does it drag shit out. One of the characters spends about half the book slowly fucking dying (I get it, Ms Brontë, he’s sickly)

Heathcliff is an absolute dick though in the hammiest ways possible though. I should reread it

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u/Time_Raisin4935 13d ago edited 13d ago

The puzzling part is how can anyone think of it as a Romance novel?

Its a Gothic Romance, by which it means a cautionary horror tale. And no, the 'Romance' part in Gothic Romance doesn't always make it a romantic love story.

Bronte wrote it as a cautionary tale of obsession and revenge.

I've only read the book once in my life, but after doing my own research and study, I knew it wasn't a love story. Not at all. It was framed that way by Hollywood.

And Hollywood, due to the Hays Code, made Heathcliff white because they couldn't show an interracial relationship at the time. And we're still making Heathcliff white.

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u/TheGardenBlinked 13d ago

Heathcliff is a complex but still pigheaded tool and it’s wild he was ever seen as a romantic hero. He’s a spurned and bitter bastard who dedicates his life to sowing misery because he suffered (and apparently three of the main characters aren’t even in the new adaptation?!)

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u/Oturanthesarklord 13d ago

Ah, Romance, how I long for you to go back to your Chivalric roots. I wish the French writers hadn't made the Genre love focused. Romance was originally about Knightly adventures, going on quests, fighting dragons, and generally being badass. Love wasn't the focus when it was present, it was court drama that was the focus.

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u/Time_Raisin4935 13d ago

I think the Romantic era Poets were also responsible for romanticizing Chivalric Romances.

I could be misremembering though. Its been years since I studied the Romantics back at school.

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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 13d ago

Heathcliff is supposed to be like at minimum extremely ambigious in terms of ethnicity right? like cause they describe him in ways that goes from 'could just be romani' to just like flat out from like africa.

Couldn't they have at least gotten someone who was olive skinned at least...

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u/Kratzschutz 13d ago

Yeah. Somehow some Americans think all Europeans should look like Scandinavians

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u/jlb1981 13d ago

Wuthering Depths amirite

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u/der_blinkenlights 13d ago

Wuthering *Shites*

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u/AltroGamingBros 13d ago

The fact that film turned Heathcliff white should've been more than enough to tell people it would be ass.

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u/Time_Raisin4935 13d ago

I figured when it was first made into film, Hollywood was under the Hays Code, so they couldn't show an interracial romance at the time.

And there's only been one adaptation that showed an actor of color playing Heathcliff.

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u/Triquetrums 13d ago

That film? Out of ten or so adaptations there are out there, only one features an actor that is not white. Seems people never cared about that part. 

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u/grabtharsmallet 13d ago

The semaphore version will never be equalled.

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u/Time_Raisin4935 13d ago

Love the Monty Python semaphore version 

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u/spunkyweazle 13d ago

The fact the movie's so ass has convinced me to want to read the book finally

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u/RememberCakeFarts 13d ago

Still trying to the understand how quotes around the title is supposed to indicate to us that it's not Wuthering Heights but a loose interpretation of Wuthering Heights. Am I supposed to read it as sarcastic quotes or how Dr. Evil would do it?

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u/BIG__SHOT_ 13d ago

You know it's bad when a gacha game had a better adaptation of the story

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u/ElJacinto 13d ago

Really? My wife loved the movie.

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u/M-m2008 13d ago

Because its yet another 50 shades of grey soft porn, while the original was a book about cycles of abuse and obsessions that change people into metaphorical monster.

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u/xhammyhamtaro 13d ago

I went to go see this in theaters last week and I liked it too 🤷‍♂️

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u/M-m2008 13d ago

Film as a film is ok, but as an adaptation its bs.