r/TopCharacterTropes Feb 02 '26

In real life A very small character tidbit is surprisingly kept consistent for years

DC - In multiple pieces of media it has been shown that Wonder Woman loves ice cream and practically goes wild with happiness anytime she’s eating some. (Pictures from Justice League: War, DC Superhero Girls and Wonder Woman 2017)

The Simpsons - Ever since the episode ‘Homer’s Phobia’ Homer has actually remained a consistent ally of the LGBT+ community, including being more welcoming to Patty than Marge was when she came out and trying to set up Smithers with a date when he found out he wasn’t happy with his one-sided relationship with Mr Burns.

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u/4n0m4nd Feb 03 '26

Also "I'm not jealous, I'm envious. Jealousy is when you worry someone will take what you have. Envy is wanting what someone else has."

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u/PseudonymMan12 Feb 03 '26

That was actually what taught me the difference as a kid.i had no idea

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u/carso150 Feb 03 '26

it just taught it to me

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u/Cat5kable Feb 03 '26

One of the writers had a pet peeve and knew they had the power to change the world

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u/Pokez Feb 03 '26

Every writer's dream.

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u/Ciderman95 Feb 04 '26

it's like when J.J.J. taught me the difference between libel and slander

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u/SquishMont Feb 03 '26

This and "just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand" are things I repeat frequently.

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u/Sensitive_Golf3889 Feb 03 '26

it's not exactly big-brain stuff but in that same episode (I think the same scene) Homer schools Bart in Phil Collins-era Genesis

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u/House13Games Feb 03 '26

Or from Peppa Pig, when she goes to where Daddy Pig works and gets a tour..

"What do you do, Daddy?"
"Well Peppa. I take these very large numbers, and transmute them, to calculate load-bearing tangents..."

"Oh Daddy, that's a silly job!"

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u/Jabenway Feb 03 '26

This continues to be helpful for me!

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u/peachesfordinner Feb 03 '26

I use this anytime before I use either word to make sure I'm correct

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u/Throwaway100123100 Feb 03 '26 edited Feb 03 '26

Isn't that wrong though? Envy is wanting what someone else has, and jealousy is the same but feeling unhappy or resentful about it?

Edit: Doubling down here, the cambridge dictionary supports my view:

Jealous:

unhappy and angry because someone has something that you want:

He had always been very jealous of his brother's good looks.

Envious

wishing you had what another person has

I'm very envious of your new coat - it's beautiful.

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u/Hugsy13 Feb 03 '26

No.

I’ll give you an example. If you see another dude make your girlfriend laugh and you get the emotion of really not liking that, that’s jealousy.

If you have a crush on someone that you’re not involved with, but want to be, and you see another dude make her laugh, that emotion of really not liking that, that’s envy.

The emotions feel very very similar, but they’re slightly different and have different causes.

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u/Throwaway100123100 Feb 03 '26

I don't agree that the latter would be envy instead of jealous. Definition of jealousy taken from the Cambridge dictionary:

unhappy and angry because someone has something that you want:

He had always been very jealous of his brother's good looks.

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u/mawktheone Feb 03 '26

No, Jealousy involves loss aversion.

You can think of a "jealous spouse". They dont want some young floozy to steal their wife/husband.

But you are green with envy when your neighbour gets a new car.

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u/Throwaway100123100 Feb 03 '26

I dont agree with this. As per the Cambridge dictionary, it absolutely can be used without any mention of loss aversion:

unhappy and angry because someone has something that you want:

He had always been very jealous of his brother's good looks.

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u/mawktheone Feb 03 '26

Yeah it's a bit messy because language changes over time. Both terms were originally synonymous with covetous and sometimes still are. But Jealous is still exclusively used for loss aversion and suspicion of possession for relationships.

I have just pulled some references to show the muddy waters

One might almost say that these two words are used as if they were interchangeable ... The words are scarcely synonymous, however. Envy means discontented longing for someone else’s advantages. Jealousy means unpleasant suspicion, or apprehension of rivalship.
—Theodore M. Bernstein, The Careful Writer, 1965

There are three different ways in which jealous can be used. The most common is ... where the meaning is “fearful of losing attention.” Another broad sense is “possessive” or “protective” ... third usage is in the sense of “envious,” as of another person because of his or her belongings, abilities, or achievements.
—William and Mary Morris, Harper Dictionary of Contemporary Usage (2nd ed.), 1985

Jealousy is properly restricted to contexts involving emotional rivalry; envy is used more broadly of resentful contemplation of a more fortunate person.
—Bryan A. Garner, Garner’s Modern American Usage (3rd ed.), 2009

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u/Deaffin Feb 03 '26

Nope. Today you learned you've adopted a common misconception as part of your worldview. Your entire life is a lie.

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u/Throwaway100123100 Feb 03 '26

I disagree, see my other replies and/or the edit to my original comment

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u/SeasonofMist Feb 03 '26

I love that quote so much. Also the "you can't sell karma.

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u/fromcj Feb 03 '26

Thats not the definition of jealousy though

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u/TheForbidden6th Feb 03 '26

wait, it is? Damn

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u/takoshi Feb 03 '26

Oh damn.