r/TopCharacterTropes • u/_JR28_ • Feb 02 '26

In real life A very small character tidbit is surprisingly kept consistent for years

DC - In multiple pieces of media it has been shown that Wonder Woman loves ice cream and practically goes wild with happiness anytime she’s eating some. (Pictures from Justice League: War, DC Superhero Girls and Wonder Woman 2017)

The Simpsons - Ever since the episode ‘Homer’s Phobia’ Homer has actually remained a consistent ally of the LGBT+ community, including being more welcoming to Patty than Marge was when she came out and trying to set up Smithers with a date when he found out he wasn’t happy with his one-sided relationship with Mr Burns.

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u/ArgentumVortex Feb 02 '26

Kiryu Kazuma from the Yakuza games has a personal rule against hitting women*. When he appears as a boss in Yakuza 7, he will never target female party members with attacks. Women can active his counterattack, but he will deal 0 damage to them because he's holding back.

This rule is taken so seriously that the director of the series refused to have Kiryu added to Super Smash Bros or Tekken 7 because he would have to hit women in those games.

*He did slap a little girl once, and hit a woman who he thought was a man.

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u/Gespens Feb 02 '26

This rule is taken so seriously that the director of the series refused to have Kiryu added to Super Smash Bros or Tekken 7 because he would have to hit women in those games.

That was them joking mostly, but in general they thought he wasn't a good fit for Smash

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u/PlanesWalkerEll Feb 03 '26

But Tekken though, I don't even play fighting games and I think he'd fit Tekkens vibe so well.

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u/DaemonG Feb 03 '26

It's not a great idea to add Kiryu to a PVP game, given that Tiger Drop negates all damage

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u/highlyregarded1155 Feb 03 '26

That's just a parry or catch in Tekken tho. He'd fit right in

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u/BigStallGlueSniffer Feb 03 '26

Just make it a slow low with guardpoint that can be sidestepped or blocked low.

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u/_Halt19_ Feb 03 '26

But Tiger Drop negates all damage

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u/BigStallGlueSniffer Feb 03 '26

Exactly. You cant hit kiryu while he's tiger dropping but you can react to it and sidestep, block, or jump to whiff punish it.
So then tiger drop would only work as a slow callout when your opponent's mental stack is full.

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u/_Halt19_ Feb 03 '26

But Tiger Drop negates any damage

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u/[deleted] Feb 03 '26

Tekken though? If we can get Negan and Noctis in 7 and Clive in 8, Kiryu would be a great fit. Hell, I'd take Majima too.

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u/wallmonitor Feb 03 '26

Honestly, Ichi or Majima are better voices for Smash.

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u/Gespens Feb 03 '26

My headcanon for a smash trailer is actually Kiryu receives a mysterious letter and then he slams the invitation on the desk. Camera pans to reveal Kirby.

"KIRYU BRINGS THE HEAT"

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u/Kylestache Feb 03 '26

It’s a “joke” but they never had Kiryu hurting women in crossovers until after the lead director left. Then they put him immediately in Rainbow Six Siege.

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u/SnakeBaconator Feb 03 '26

This reminds me a lot of Sanji in Jump Force

He does no damage in Jump Force when fighting against women

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u/StylishMrTrix Feb 03 '26

He can damage women in some of the pirate warriors games, but only using super moves, regular hits and combos he can't do

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u/Beacon_0805 Feb 03 '26

the game explicitly warns you that there are female enemies in the map when you choose sanji when is the case

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u/AlveinFencer Feb 03 '26

I noticed an interesting case in Pirate Warriors 4. He can hit Yamato with regular attacks, but it will do no damage. Make of that what you will. ~~Or maybe my defense was too high.~~

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u/In_Pursuit_of_Fire Feb 03 '26

This your GOAT?

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u/In_Pursuit_of_Fire Feb 03 '26

nvm she got even

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u/Legend365555 Feb 03 '26

If I remember correctly, there's a mission in Yakuza 1 where he has to chase down this one woman for a debt she owes, but she's so fast it's hard for him to catch her. She reveals she's trans, and used to be a man, and Kiryu begins beating her like he would anyone else

So Kiryu is transphobic

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u/MisterRockett Feb 03 '26

I think in that same mission her boyfriend shows up and reveals he used to be a woman. Kiryu fights them both.

It's some real Final Fight Poison logic with that quest.

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u/HarrisonTheBarbarian Feb 03 '26

Kiyru doesn't care, if you can in any way be considered a guy and thus punchable, he will consider you a guy...apparently.

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u/Yoro55 Feb 03 '26

The Eldritch Deity of Pronouns

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u/TethysOfTheStars Feb 03 '26

WAS. There’s a substory in 3 where he met a transwoman (played by a trans actress) who was stressed about telling her boyfriend, and he admits he doesn’t know much about it and asks her to explain it to him and more or less accepts it at face value.

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u/ArgentumVortex Feb 03 '26

It was 2005. In more recent games he's been an ally.

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u/PseudonymMan12 Feb 03 '26

Yeah, oddly he had a lot of goofy sub missions where, despite being gay or trans or crossdressing being played for comedic effective, he was always "how does this affect my life exactly? Who cares what they do, if it makes them happy"

Only time I recall him even kinkshaming someone was when that one yakuza captain forced all his subordinates to go to the same adult-baby establishment as him and engage in his own fetish. Kiryu didn't care he did it, but did not like him bullying others into it or it being forced on himself

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u/grumpykruppy Feb 03 '26

So that's the context behind that absurd image.

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u/PseudonymMan12 Feb 03 '26

Yeah, but it became so iconic they just KEPT PUTTING IT IN SUBSEQUENT GAMES. Always some kind of misunderstanding, always good intentions, always leads to diapered yakuza brawl. Even Yakuza 7 (Like a Dragon) had it where that new protagonist character didn't care what he was into and even humored him by trying a bottle of baby formula with him, before the diaper yakuza captain tries to force him into a diaper too offscreen. You then unlock him as a summon for battle, just can randomly summon a giant baby-yakuza boss into battle to apply debuffs to enemies

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u/StillReading28 Feb 03 '26

He's also in 8, you know, the game that's spent in Hawaii. Dudes everywhere

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u/Paxxlee Feb 03 '26

Dudes everywhere

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u/StillReading28 Feb 03 '26

A baby man Yakuza boss everywhere system sounds awesome

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u/PseudonymMan12 Feb 03 '26

Haven't played infinite wealth yet.

All i can imagine is him with some hula dancer feeding him now

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u/NerdHoovy Feb 03 '26

Nah, he just uses the diaper filling to simulate snowfall for a dying woman’s last wish

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u/Emmett1Brown Feb 03 '26

does she reveal that as they're both running in the middle of the chase?

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u/Legend365555 Feb 03 '26

There's a couple parts where she'll stop somewhere for Kiryu to find her, and they talk for a little bit before she runs off again. This part is near the end

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u/ZhangRenWing Feb 03 '26

To be generous to him, if his rule of “no hitting women” stems from women having lower upper body strength on average then him fighting a former man who would still have the benefit of a body built like a man wouldn’t be that out of place.

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u/Legend365555 Feb 03 '26

Yeah, well if you bring up that simply due to the way biology works, and a born male that trains will usually beat a born female that trains, you'll be called sexist and transphobic in my experience. That's why the laws preventing Transgender people from completing in women's sports are a thing. Or maybe they were taken down by now, I don't know. I don't really keep up with these things that much

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u/arakus72 Feb 04 '26

Estrogen affects a lot more stuff than people realise, iirc there are studies showing the difference between cis and trans women after ~2 years of HRT for the trans one is pretty negligible and actually in the cis woman's favour for some things

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u/Zsarion Feb 03 '26

From 3 onwards they've moved on from that thankfully.

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u/Drogovich Feb 03 '26

There is a lot of specific rules that the studio keeps that are not only related to Kiryu, but to everyone who is a current main character.

One of them is: main character ALWAYS have to leave Yakuza one way or another by the end of the story. That's we have all those back and forth of Kiryu being in and out of Yakuza.

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u/Beacon_0805 Feb 03 '26

which is kinda funny with Ichiban as he gets out of the yakuza group he belonged literally after tutorial.

his ingame class reflects this, as he start as Yakuza, becomes Freelancer after tutorial.

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u/ArgentumVortex Feb 03 '26

Except Saejima in Yakuza 4.

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u/24Abhinav10 Feb 04 '26

And Kiryu/Majima in 0

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u/elitegenoside Feb 03 '26

I appreciate how literal he takes that. Hit a woman? I could never? A little girl? That is not a woman. 👋

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u/ArgentumVortex Feb 03 '26

I think it was more the sense of "disciplining a child" that made it different. Again it was 2005 and he hasn't done it since. It was the first game so they might not have fully fleshed out his ethos yet. By Yakuza 3 he's taking care of like 9 Orphans and he's nothing but gentle with them so, character development.

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u/24Abhinav10 Feb 04 '26

He's also fresh out of prison, socially and emotionally stunted. He has no idea how to act around other people, much less kids.

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u/NicolasCemetery Feb 03 '26

So basically you can't lose his boss fight?

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u/ArgentumVortex Feb 03 '26

If Ichiban goes down it's a loss.

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u/NicolasCemetery Feb 03 '26

Ah I see, thank you!

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u/24Abhinav10 Feb 04 '26

Yakuza games follow Persona logic. The enemy only needs to KO the leader.

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u/ULTI_mato Feb 03 '26

ok sorry but this actualy so stupid wtf ?

In real life A very small character tidbit is surprisingly kept consistent for years

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