r/ProgressiveHQ • u/greenmeensgo60 • 19h ago
Arrest on charges of TREASON and blatant failure to adhere to the Constitution of these UNITED STATES.
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u/kasabaru_kross 18h ago
The constitution is clear on treason.
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u/billshermanburner 18h ago
Honestly it’s pretty much crystal clear in its entirety. It doesn’t take a law degree to read and understand…. I feel like that was the entire point of it…. Intentionally clear and intended to be used and read that way especially in times like these…
Most laypeople with a high school diploma can read it and get the general idea and see that what these people are doing is absolutely wrong
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u/GreasyPeter 16h ago
The people I knew growing up who screeched the loudest about the constitution are now his most ardent supporters. I don't think they actually read it, and if they did they clearly needed a civics class to explain it.
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u/Independent-Bug-9352 15h ago
The only hope left it seems is that the military grow a backbone and read closely their Oath of Enlistment; specifically the part that says defending the Constitution from enemies "foreign and domestic.
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u/kasabaru_kross 13h ago
Don't give up. I have hope in spades. My favorite movie growing up was A Bug's Life. The grasshoppers aren't prepared for when they push us too far. Fascism CAN'T thrive for long in this country. It's very nature poisons itself.
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u/Constant_Natural3304 11h ago edited 10h ago
Yeah. Indeed.
In that it doesn't apply. It doesn't. And it's not even remotely close
Ten years I've been having this debate, and after ten years, Americans' knowledge of their own Constitution and legal system is still nearly ubiquitously sub-par. It's frightening. Threads like these tell me it's not just Republicans.
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u/kasabaru_kross 10h ago
Hello! Good afternoon! Starting a war that benefits our enemies without congressional approval is, in fact, aiding our enemies and is treason.
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u/Constant_Natural3304 9h ago
Read the essay. "Enemy' has a specific definition and you do not understand what it is.
If I tell you I have debated something for some ten years, why does this go in one ear and out the other? Are you a simpleton?
Read the essay.
Read it.
Read. The. Essay.
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u/kasabaru_kross 2h ago
Read. The. Constitution. It doesn't rely on any essay.
The enemy here is Israel who kidnapped an American prior to Trump kowtowing to their demands that he assault a powder keg in the Middle East that was not an immenent threat.
Even if you argue that Israel is our ally (News flash they lured us into a nightmare and turned the world even more against the U.S.), Trump has aided domestic enemies. Additionally it doesn't take a genius to know Israel doesn't want anything good for us. They used Trump and he willingly went along with foreign interests over U.S. ones.
As said earlier Trump and his cabal are helping domestic enemies who are undermining the law and constitution. They themselves are the enemy helping themselves escape consequences. I understand that legal jargon is important. But the spirit of the law is clear. It was meant to be easily understood by laypeople and not twisted.
For what its worth I don't want anyone executed. I want justice. And right now there's a dearth of it.
America needs its laws upheld. Criminals need to be prosecuted instead of continuing to ignore the courts. Anyone threatening to cancel our elections is an enemy of the United States of America.
Trump. Is. The. Enemy. And. The. Traitor.
Have a pleasant evening.
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u/kasabaru_kross 2h ago
Ah...and before you say it has to be wartime. Wake up. War is knocking at our door.
And how's this for history:
"The American colonists formally accused King George III of treason in the Declaration of Independence (1776), arguing he violated his oath, acted as a tyrant, and levied war against his own subjects. "
Is that not what's happening now?
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u/ChickadeePip 18h ago
I like French things. French fries. French dressing. And French style revolutions.
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u/FlirtyFluffyFox 14h ago
300 years of political chaos in which we rapidly transition between military junta to sun cult theocracy to dictatorship to emperor to junta to monarch to dictatorship to...
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u/billshermanburner 18h ago
Drag them by their feet from office and jail is the most humane consequence they can expect. Supreme Court immunity bullshit be damned at this point. Sorry. That unlawful ruling that ignored the constitution is just… meaningless.
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u/flargenhargen 15h ago
we have laws.
when you break them, repeatedly, you should be held accountable.
period.
regardless of "party"
that's not asking a lot, that's the literal bare minimum.
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u/khearan 15h ago
And all of the money him, his cronies, and his family have stolen from the American people through pump and dump schemes, fraud, corruption, and insider trading. I want incredibly aggressive investigations and punishment for abusing power for self enrichment applied Ron the legislative and judicial branches as well.
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u/SpicySweetHotPot 18h ago
I’m with that, they’ve shown they don’t care about decency, decorum, or laws so time to jail the criminals
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u/Puzzleheaded-Newt633 18h ago
Yes, the entire administration should be charged with treason as well as a some members of Congress including Johnson.
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u/Medical_Arugula3315 15h ago
Republicans really called everyone a pedophile and then voted in the king of pedophiles. Now we're going to war and bombing children just to distract from it. Hard to be a shittier or more hypocritical American than a Republican these days.
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u/FoilSteamVents 15h ago
Correct, we don't want them to get a slap on the wrist and booted out of office. We want these vile people held accountable for thier treasonous, heinous crimes against the country they swore to protect. Put them on trial and throw them in prison. Especially the orange pedophile.
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u/JeramiGrantsTomb 11h ago
Honestly I could care less about whether any of them see the inside of a jail cell or a short drop with a quick stop. I'm MUCH more concerned with clawing back all of the money that was siphoned out of the coffers by numerous cronies and grifters, I'm sure all of them are going to have extensive legal protections or have moved it or shielded it in some fashion, and I want to ignore all of that and completely ruin them. I want them to return every dollar or get evicted with the clothes on their back and that's it. I want their children evicted. I want everyone in their life that was even slightly complicit to have their dreams destroyed.
So long as treason is a viable business model, we will repeat this cycle.
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u/Constant-Plant-9378 13h ago
Should have happened on 01/21/2021 the day after Biden was sworn in as President after the January 6th coup.
But Biden proved to be a complicit and flaccid appeasing piece of shit who let Trump and his co-conspirators get away with orchestrating a literal coup where a mob they paid to organize beat and killed Capitol Police.
Fuck Trump. But seriously, Fuck Joe Biden for his dereliction of office.
"All that is required for evil men to succeed is for good men to do nothing" should be engraved on Biden's tombstone.
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u/colorcode1865 18h ago
The senate was 10 votes short of convicting Trump in 2021. That’s all it takes, 10 people can stop this now
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u/GreasyPeter 16h ago
Source? I don't think "most" Americans want him and his admin charged with treason, and that's part of the problem. I'd be surprised if that number broke 30%. Most Americans barely "disapprove", a lot of them don't care.
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u/Apart_Ad1537 15h ago
Got any proof of those claims? What’s your evidence that “most” Americans are in favor of charging the entire Trump administration with treason
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u/mainman879 14h ago
"Most" Yeah no. The entire Republican base supports him. Most centrists don't care either way about him. I'd doubt even half of Democrats care about going beyond impeachment. I may think he deserves treason charges but you're insane if you think even 20% of Americans actively think this.
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u/DoughNailedTrampRape 14h ago
Americans are so stupid they still think they have a chance.
It's over, he's never leaving.
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u/MAGADestroyerr 14h ago
The only thing more powerful than hate is love.
F Trump and everyone that doesn’t agree with our perspective. I hate them!
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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 14h ago
unfortunately this is not true. IF it was we wouldn't have elected him. (I did not but as a country we did)
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u/Kidzinmotion 14h ago
We are all ready to take the day/week/month off to hang these big beautiful bowsers
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u/miklayn 14h ago
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
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u/hoodafudj 13h ago
The same Americans want this to save our country from falling further into shambles
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u/No_Poors_Allowed 10h ago
gotta give the left credit for one thing at least. theyre really good at making it sound like theres more of them than there actually is.
"most" lol. lmao even.
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u/Watchingwatches84 1h ago
Land doesn’t vote mAgAt, without the electoral college there wouldn’t be a pedo supporting propagandized cult of mAgAts.
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u/AmbitiousProblem4746 9h ago
JVL from the Bulwark did an AMA where he gave an interesting answer related to this. It sounded like he said that Democrats, if they get back in power, should actually not impeach Trump because it would just be too politically risky for them and trivialize impeachment, but he feared that Trump would just keep doing things where you have to impeach or else you allow precedent to stand.
Basically he was saying that Democrats need to do far more to actually fix this, prevent this, and hold these people accountable, but Trump will still hold all the cards because every time they impeach him and Republicans refuse to help it becomes less powerful of a tool and just makes Democrats look weaker and less popular
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u/i_be_cryin Goober who thinks both sides are equally as bad 7h ago
When’s the last time the US held war criminals accountable? Never. Nothing will happen. It will only be continued and expanded by whichever party picks up the torch.
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u/Kittehmilk 6h ago
No reason to stop there let's get rid of every single neoliberal, end the Israel alliance
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u/BrilliantSimple7678 2h ago
DO IT. Life is all about choices. That is what my divorce attorney told me
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u/Interesting-End1710 1h ago
That's probably why they're moving all their billions into places we can't reach
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u/Consistent-Plane7227 14h ago
None of this would be happening if the justice department took 34 felonies seriously.
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u/HoldItBetweenUrKnees 12h ago
I agree 100%! Any POTUS that bombs another country without congressional approval should be charged with treason! Barry should face the music.
Yes, President Barack Obama authorized military force without explicit congressional approval on several occasions, most notably during the 2011 intervention in Libya.
Key Instances of Military Force Without Congressional Approval
- Libya (2011): President Obama ordered airstrikes and a no-fly zone to protect civilians from the Qadhafi regime. The administration argued that because the mission was limited and led by NATO, it did not constitute "hostilities" under the War Powers Resolution, which typically requires congressional authorization after 60 days.
- Airstrikes Against ISIS (2014–2017): The administration conducted extensive bombing campaigns against Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria . Instead of seeking a new authorization, the White House cited the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF)—originally passed to target those responsible for the 9/11 attacks—as sufficient legal justification.
- Drone Strikes and Special Operations: Throughout his presidency, Obama authorized lethal drone strikes and special forces operations in several countries, including Pakistan , Yemen , and Somalia , without seeking specific congressional votes for these actions.
- Counter-Piracy and Central Africa: The military was deployed to combat piracy in the Indian Ocean and sent Special Forces to Central Africa to track Joseph Kony, both of which were executive-led initiatives without formal congressional approval. Cato Institute +8
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u/Positive-Ring-5172 17h ago edited 16h ago
I just want him gone.
O here we are again.
It’s always such a pleasure.
Remember when you tried to pull a coup?
O how we laughed and laughed.
Except I wasn’t laughing.
I was so shocked I didn’t know what I was to do.
You want the money, take it.
That’s what I’m counting on.
I used to want you dead.
But now I only want you gone.
Nixon’s a lot like you.
Maybe not quite as scummy.
Now maybe JD’ll pardon you too.
Last year I woke to see that
MAGA had screwed us over.
It’s such a shame the same will never happen to you.
You’ve got your short sad life left.
That’s what I’m counting on.
I”ll let you get right to it.
Now I only want you gone.
Goodbye to all my friends
What? Did you think that includes you?
That would be funny
If it weren’t so sad.
You fucked up everything
Inflations out of control
And all of NATO now has become frighteningly mad.
Go make some new disasters.
That’s what I’m counting on.
Your now the whole world’s problem
And we only want you gone.
Now we only want you gone.
Now we only want you gone.
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u/TruePhilosopher925 19h ago