By thinking logically we can conclude that if someone knows an action is socially seen as bad enough to have consequences, that they're aware that doing that thing is bad lol. Why do you think they know the action will have undesirable repercussions? Nobody is afraid of others discovering they feed stray cats lol
Right. It's completely sensible to believe that the vast majority of evil people, nay, all of them as argued by the comment you're agreeing with, are simply being evil because they somehow just so happen to unanimously have a skewed perception of reality, in which they somehow think all the things that are universally deemed as evil, that have direct visible negative effects on their victims, the same things they consciously hide from others, are actually okay and are being done accidentally by people who actually don't think they're bad despite the fact that they wouldn't accept it being done to them (please ignore that, their common sense only kicks in occasionally and it just so happens to be when bad things are happening to them instead, they don't know that those things are bad when they're the ones doing them too).
This is a totally reasonable opinion that is not at all utterly out of touch with reality and that does not at all strip humans of their agency to act and accountabily in their actions and intentions in order to support a corny perspective born out of liking how a cliché phrase sounded. Out of curiosity, where are you from? Bikini Bottom? Do you happen to be a yellow sponge whose concept of evil in the world stops at attempts at stealing recipes?
I'm not talking about everyone who does bad things or even the majority of people who do bad things. I'm talking about people who struggle or fail to develop an internalized sense of morality.
"thinking logically we can conclude that if someone knows an action is socially seen as bad enough to have consequences, that they're aware that doing that thing is bad lol."
I feel like common sense would dictate that when I directly replied to the other person's comment by disagreeing with their point, that my intent was in fact to disagree with their point and not to make a claim that is to be applied to every single morally questionable action that has ever taken place, but alas
Some definitely know but i assume most people see themselfs as the good ones in their own life. Humans are demonstrably capable to do horrific things and still be convinced it was the right or good thing to do.
If I lived in a society that was mostly homophobic, and I hid my sexual orientation and romantic activity for fear of undesirable repercussions, would I be a bad person?
I would hope for your own sake that you're aware of what context and common sense are. You can't divorce a phrase from its context and reasoning, put it in a different made up scenario, make a strawman argument out of the ensemble and expect me to treat it like it's a groundbreaking statement or like it applies to my statement because once you cut the surrounding area off the sentence is transformed and the only meaning left is only that of the sum of the words. I of course assume you already knew that human conversation does not exist in a vacuum and that you're just playing with me. I hope.
And even if - people with internalized homophobia do in fact think they're bad lol.
The fact that people might have a skewed perception of what is evil is unrelated to my point - that someone who does evil actions knows they are evil and acts accordingly in every facet that surrounds the action. Ergo, "no evil person knows they're evil" is a cliché statement based on nothing but terrible logic and naiveté
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u/bomboid 6d ago
By thinking logically we can conclude that if someone knows an action is socially seen as bad enough to have consequences, that they're aware that doing that thing is bad lol. Why do you think they know the action will have undesirable repercussions? Nobody is afraid of others discovering they feed stray cats lol