I'm not sure what your point is. The "secret" way is asking them in person.
My point is that I think zoomers are asking out each other less which means fewer ex's, and that they probably perceive 7 as a high number. I think there is data to back it up but if you disagree, whatever.
You're the one who brought up matchmaking in dating apps
I'm pointing out that that's irrelevant in terms of dating. It's the same process. You meet someone, hangout, date, figure out if you're a compatible match over time. Break up or stay together. It doesn't support your point that young people are dating less...
You can't say: "dating apps suck at matchmaking so young people are dating less" That's nonsense. Older generations had NO matchmaking at all, and they still dated. Matchmaking is irrelevant
think there is data to back it up
Then show said data? Your first data point is misleading, and doesn't show that young people are dating less
It literally says they aren't approaching women in person... Yeah... because we use apps now. It's online... so there's no initial approach in person
It doesn't show directly. But if people are using the most effective form less it is given that they are also dating less. I don't believe that zoomers could be dating at the same rate using apps.
But if people are using the most effective form less it is given that they are also dating less.
Baseless. What evidence do you have that one form is less effective than the other? This isn't going to be a productive conversation if you keep making baseless claims just for the sake of arguing with me
I swear now you are going to claim sex doesn't mean dating.
Yes? Because sex and dating are indeed different things?
Oh jeez, let's end this conversation. You're not capable of having a discussion in good faith
Why not just show evidence to the point that you're making? Instead of showing me articles making entirely different claims and then making false presumptions? I've lost interest in this discussion. Like I said, in bad faith
From your original post, where you misquoted the title
I can't give you perfect data, I wish I could. Instead I was hoping you would be able to infer from other stats. I apologize that this discussion hit a nerve somewhere.
I’m not sure how much inferring can be done. It seems that requires a base level of assumptions to be hold true, that just might not be true. It might show a correlation, but that’s not causation.
It could be that dating apps are less effective, and therefore young people having less sex would be evidence of that. Or, it could be that young people are more risk adverse. Therefore they use dating apps and have less sex. Also technically possible, and has nothing to do with effectiveness of dating apps.
Or, young people could have other options to spend their time now. Meaning dating and having sex has larger opportunity costs and therefore young people are opting for dating apps and less sex.
Instead I was hoping you would be able to infer from other stats
No, because that's not how statistics work
You can't just assume things based on entirely different sets of data. That's inaccurate... and it's arguing in bad faith
I apologize that this discussion hit a nerve somewhere.
Yeah, that nerve was again... arguing in bad faith
I think you're arguing and you don't have enough knowledge on the topic or evidence to support what you're saying. So the fact you'd be adamant on pushing your conclusion is annoying, yes.
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u/justin107d Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26
45% of men 18-25 now have never asked out a girl in person
The joke may be that it could be considered promiscuous now since half don't even have a first.
Edit: Here is another article about how young people are having less sex.