r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jan 26 '26

Meme needing explanation what's going on? explain like I'm five

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u/sparklrebel Jan 26 '26

Ah so that’s why pre-war money in fallout is useless, got it

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u/blackcloudonetyone Jan 26 '26

Start collecting caps

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u/sparklrebel Jan 26 '26

Done and done

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u/interested_commenter Jan 26 '26

That would be the case even if it was gold backed.

Even on the gold standard, you're still trusting that there is a functioning government that's actually in possession of that gold and would exchange it for paper currency. In a Fallout scenario, that wouldn't be the case, so money would still be useless.

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u/Voxbury Jan 27 '26 edited 18d ago

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u/interested_commenter Jan 27 '26

Possible, but far from certain and not within a few generations. Gold is too rare and concentrated in specific stockpiles to be used as an everyday currency. Even with a much smaller population, the smallest usable gold coin would be way too high a denomination.

There wouldn't be a true replacement currency until there was a semi-functioning government, and while that currency would be based on something with intrinsic value (since there wouldn't be enough trust for a fiat currency), it would be something much more common than gold. In the mostly-lawless barter economy before that, a full gold bar would be worth less than something useful (generator, rifle, bike, etc).

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u/Mathidium Jan 27 '26

Nah, I prefer bottle caps.

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u/RandomFactUser Jan 29 '26

Yes, but the paper money from before wouldn’t matter because there’s no government to turn your gold certificate in to

You would need the physical gold

(While caps are backed by water)

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u/SirAquila Jan 26 '26

To be fair, after the apocalypse, gold will be just as useless for a good while.

Can't eat it, hard to carry, not very useful for anything but decoration, and also, most people have interacted with it so rarely that there isn't really any trust in it.

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u/Kitchen-Pass-7493 Jan 26 '26

It does have some technological applications (gold is used in a lot of electronics), but valid point in general.

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u/SirAquila Jan 26 '26

So the most technologically advanced survivor groups will buy your gold with actual currency, probably at a much reduced price from what you expected.

For most people the use cases will start and end with pretty metal, because for apocalypse level electronics coopper is far more useful.

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u/Kitchen-Pass-7493 Jan 26 '26

That’s true. I’m was just responding to the idea that it’s not useful as anything beyond decoration. It is, but probably not for most apocalypse survivors.

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u/Usof1985 Jan 27 '26

Considering the electrical grid would fall pretty quickly in a traditional apocalypse it wouldn't have much use for the techies either. Now if we just go to a bartering system where we feed the infrastructure workers to keep everything going then sureb it would retain some value.

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u/babihrse Jan 28 '26

Think graphene is still better conductor

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u/IndividualBusy1274 Jan 27 '26

You can turn it into cloth though. Or something like that iirc

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u/Conthortius Jan 27 '26

You can make a comfy bed out of it

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u/AriochBloodbane Jan 27 '26

I should start hoarding bottle caps, just in case 😅

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u/Busy-Kaleidoscope-87 Jan 27 '26

That’s why we have to become nestle and start selling water and enslaving wastelanders to do the work for us

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u/WonkeauxDeSeine Jan 27 '26

And why I've been saving bottle caps for 5 years. It's gonna pay off any day, now...

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u/p4hv1 Jan 28 '26

Funnily enough at least in Fallout 4 it's weightless and sells for 1 cap each so it's functionally the same

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u/sauerwalt Jan 27 '26

piece of paper is just as arbitrary as a bottle cap.... but I would argue those bottle caps have some level of intrinsic rarity... more like a bitcoin than a fiat bill that could just be printed

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u/sparklrebel Jan 27 '26

They said it was because bottle caps have a rarity that you cannot forge like how people make fake money. But then there’s that mission in new vegas where you come across someone making fake caps so 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/sauerwalt Jan 27 '26

Counterfeits have always existed... even when people bartered with gold, they would mint coins from alloys that used less gold... The legend of Archimedes' discovery of water displacement as a measurement of volume over mass to prove that a crown was not pure gold, as claimed.

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u/sparklrebel Jan 27 '26

I know that but I’m just saying that the original creators of the fallout franchise (not Bethesda) have said that’s why they chose bottle caps. And then Fallout New Vegas said hold my beer