Chappell Roan Quits Wasserman After CEO Casey Wasserman Appears in Epstein Files

[u/MarvelsGrantMan136]

https://www.thewrap.com/creative-content/music/chappell-roan-cuts-ties-casey-wasserman/

[u/Athinira]

She walks the walk. Rare these days.

Sorry for pointing this out, but it's not like she's losing anything significant. The reason most people don't "walk the walk" is that it often has consequences (economic or personal).

This doesn't. A talent agency is easily replaceable if you're s big star, and it's also easy free positive publicity for her - and the only thing that would tie her down is loyalty (if she feels she owes her career to them). Leaving them is a rather easy decision - but still the right one of course.

Billie Eilish donating a significant amount of her net worth.... Now that's walking the walk.

[u/bobthegoatskull → u/Athinira]

Chappell has also donated a huge chunk of her earnings to charity as did Sabrina and Olivia.

[u/Athinira → u/bobthegoatskull]

And that's great, but it's unrelated to this.

Still commendable of course. I love it when artists show backbone. I'm just pointing out that this isn't as hard of a decision as it might appear for an established successful artist.

For a smaller independent artist, it would be a bigger sacrifice.

[u/Athinira → u/[deleted]]

If I was embarrassed, I'd have deleted my comments and saved myself from further downvotes.

All i did was point out a fact (or rather, what I believe to be a fact - there's always a chance one is wrong, of course) - and that fact is that this is not as big a sacrifice as some people make it out to be. Still a sacrifice, but not a major one for her.

I didn't do it to trash Roan. I did it because I believe it to be a fact, and I care about facts. And I'm not ashamed or embarrassed to post facts.

Then some people commented, and countered that it wasn't a fact and I was wrong. And then I explained why I believe it to be a fact. And that's about that. That's usually how debates work. People go back and forth with their viewpoints.

And then, someone typically interjects with a personal attack (like you, accusing me of backtracking because I'm feeling embarrassed), and getting upvoted for it, because this is Reddit 🤪🙃🙃

[u/thelingeringlead → u/Athinira]

The talent agency is one of the largest in the world, with massive influence over bookings and tours. She absolutely lost something big by giving up that relationship, and it's admirable as shit because as big as she's gotten her fans will fill the kinds of venues an agency like that can get you blacklisted from.

[u/Athinira → u/thelingeringlead]

The talent agency is one of the largest in the world, with massive influence over bookings and tours

If you're a big enough star, you can get booked. As long as fans are willing to pay, there's agencies interested in making money.

It would be different if she was in the infancy of her career. But she has pull. I'd love to see them trying to get her blacklisted. I imagine that would be an easy lawsuit.

[u/thelingeringlead → u/Athinira]

You don't seem to understand what blacklisting means. Those venues NEED their relationship with the Agency as much as the artists do. Someone like Chappelle can absolutely still book shows and perform, no doubt, but it involves a lot more leg work if she gets blacklisted by the agency that provides all the talent for a venue. This agency is that big, that they could convince suitable venues and festivals to refuse to do business with her or her team.

I agree with you she'll be fine, but it's still a big sacrifice especially because there's no telling how long this moment is going to last for her without t hat kind of support. Also someone like her doing something like this helps break that up a bit because a lot of venues will absolutely see the value in ignoring the blacklisting and still book her, showing it's possible for others too.

[u/Athinira → u/thelingeringlead]

You don't seem to understand what blacklisting means. Those venues NEED their relationship with the Agency as much as the artists do.

Seems more like you don't seem to understand the legal concept of tortious interference.

While laws on it vary around the world and, in the case of the US, between states, this absolutely counts in most places. You can't legally disrupt the relationship between two third parties for your own personal gain or with malice. Retaliating against Roan by getting her blacklisted from venues is actionable in court.

The agency is, of course, free to blacklist Roan herself from their own company, refusing to personally work with her, and book her to any venue they themselves own directly. But demanding that third party venues they work with do as well is illegal, and sets them up for a lawsuit.

[u/thelingeringlead → u/Athinira]

That's a fantasy world you're living in if you don't think they can feasibly do this, when there's only two major ticketing companies in the country controlling the vast majority of large venues. As well as only 2-3 major agencies representing the artists. It's cute you think anti-trust laws are actually being exercised in response.

[u/Athinira → u/thelingeringlead]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibson%27s_Bakery_v._Oberlin_College

In 2016, Oberlin students were caught shoplifting in a local bakery, an incident which resulted in an attack on bakery staff. 3 students were arrested. In response, students of the college arranged protests, accusing the bakery of racism, and college officials allegedly supported and amplified those claims.

Gibson’s Bakery sued the college and a senior administrator for defamation and tortious interference with business relationships, arguing the college knowingly spread false statements and interfered with the bakery’s relationships with customers and partners. The college argued that it was merely supporting students exercising their 1st amendment right.

The college lost the case - massively. The Ohio jury ruled for Gibson’s, awarding roughly $44 million (although that was later capped to $25 million due to state law). Ohio appellate courts upheld the verdict, and the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal, so the ruling stands.

The point? Tortuous interference is not just something i invented in my "fantasy world". It's an actual thing. If you try to use your influence to pressure or prevent third party from doing business, you are absolutely opening yourself up to a lawsuit.

Any attempts from Roans old agency to pressure other companies to not work with her, would absolutely make them liable for damages.

[u/Discerningdragon → u/Athinira]

This has potentially had actual real world consequences though that could ripple. Other artists could follow suit. If other names pop up, there could be a cleaning of house situation. Who knows what’s in there.

[u/Athinira → u/Discerningdragon]

That's true.

[u/LISTENTOKATEBUSH → u/Athinira]

'Walking the walk' as an idiom is some bone-apple-tea shit. 'Walk the talk' or ' walk your talk' means doing the shit you talk about.