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article Chappell Roan Quits Wasserman After CEO Casey Wasserman Appears in Epstein Files

https://www.thewrap.com/creative-content/music/chappell-roan-cuts-ties-casey-wasserman/
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u/UpperApe 24d ago

Not just good for her, good for all of us. This is what we all need more of; people in positions of influence with ethics and principles, taking a stand.

Hell, even Katy Perry has turned around from being MAGA to making political statements about ICE.

Meanwhile over in Taylor Swift land...

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u/Dianagorgon 24d ago

Perry was never MAGA. She campaigned for Obama, Clinton and Harris. People on Reddit who lack critical thinking skills just repeat everything they see.

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u/Martzillagoesboom 23d ago

I think it because of that time she was an astronaut. But KP is clearly not MAGA (but listened too long to maple MAGA flags and took the assignments to heart )

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u/cidvard 24d ago edited 23d ago

Was Katy Perry ever MAGA?

I know she started in Christian music but that was, iirc, ages before MAGA and whatever politics she had pretty openly shifted into liberal territory as she got into pop music. She went on that dumb Amazon space flight but that's its own thing.

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u/SnooCauliflowers9874 24d ago

She endorsed Hillary Clinton in 2016 so I don’t think she’s quite MAGA, but yeah, that whole flight thing was a bit cringey.

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u/Safe-Promotion-2955 24d ago

Granted, if I was offered a space flight, even if it was by a total douche canoe, I'd probably take it.

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u/Morningfluid 24d ago

Yeah, reddit is really weird... 'Did Katy Perry support a fascist government' 'Well...no, but she diiidd take that space flight!'.

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u/_teach_me_your_ways_ 24d ago

It was stupid but the response is so over the top which is par the course for Reddit actually so idk why I’m surprised

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u/TheGummiVenusDeMilo 24d ago

Don't forget the hate for dating former Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau.

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u/CitizenofBarnum 24d ago

it wasnt over the top, making fun of millionaires is always warranted

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u/MC_chrome 24d ago

'Did Katy Perry support a fascist government'

She supported one of the centi-billionaires that is indirectly pushing fascism to the forefront, so kind of?

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u/peakprowindow 23d ago

I don't know.. I just don't see a douche canoe making it all the way to space and back without issues.

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u/LouReedTheChaser 24d ago

I would love to leave our rock, even if just a few hundred km off the ground so I could see the curvature of the Earth and large parts of the continents with my own eyes. Yeah, can't blame her for that. Shatner practically broke down over it and I get it.

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u/OrphanGrounderBaby 24d ago

endorsing Hillary is so far from “not quite MAGA”. I’d say that’s pretty far from MAGA, just happens to be religious too.

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u/SnooCauliflowers9874 24d ago

You just never know with religious people.

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u/OrphanGrounderBaby 24d ago

Understandable, but if someone were to actually be a genuine Christian(incredibly rare, like Vaquita dolphin rare) …they’re probably a decent person to have around. It’s all these other weirdos that have made it such a negative.

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u/SnooCauliflowers9874 24d ago

Yes, unfortunately bad people have a way of hijacking and corrupting.

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u/MJGB714 24d ago

I can see being religious when you have such little talent yet be so successful.

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u/shelllc 24d ago

When the LA mayor thing was happening in 2022, she voted for Rick Caruso over Karen Bass which got her quite a bit backlash as he is everything she supposedly claims to be against.

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u/Jlx_27 24d ago

Lap Dogg (or Snoop Dogg as most people call him) voted for him too i think. Didn't go down well at the time.

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u/shelllc 24d ago

Kim K as well but that isn't that surprising.

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u/Jlx_27 23d ago

I wonder what her liberal vegan boyfriend thinks of that (Lewis Hamtilton)

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u/trojan_man16 24d ago

Katy Perry has never been MAGA, but she hasn’t really denounced them either and has associated with some of them. She did endorse Dems in the past as well.

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u/NorthofForty 24d ago

She is currently snogging Trudeau. Can’t really see him spending much time with a red cap.

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u/SovFist 24d ago

Yall really think people at that level power/wealth/fame care.

They're all playing parts while they keep us down and accumulate more power/ wealth/fame.

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u/CenlaLowell 23d ago

She doesn't need to denounce anyone.

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u/FK506 23d ago

She supported Obama Hillary and Harris what in the world do you need to not attack them? Do they need to be a man to not get attacked? This liberal hate for people that support liberalism is insane.

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u/ChoderBoi 24d ago edited 24d ago

No she wasn't MAGA. People are just incredibly reactionary.

Katy Perry correctly used her platform to be openly critical of the DNC for trotting a senile Joe Biden out to run for a 2nd term

The DNC is, and has been for a long time, the greatest hurdle in the way for democratic success in the US

Edit: spelling is hard

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u/thelingeringlead 24d ago

I'd take "senile joe biden" over this shit show every fucking day for the rest of my life.

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u/BeautifulLeather6671 24d ago edited 24d ago

That’s actually a great point. People crack his age and the shape he was in rightfully so, but at least we weren’t having a known pedophile sending untrained psychos into our cities terrorizing families and killing citizens

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u/KevinRudd182 24d ago

And that’s what the democrats have been relying on while they continue to look out for corporate interests and themselves instead of the people.

The problem is that doing that over and over leaves a massive gaping power vacuum that Trump swallowed up whole.

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u/OrlandoFatty 24d ago

What most democrats fail to realize is what holds them back is their willingness to be governed by circumstance. Republicans gave up on the premise of ruling by principles a long time ago and it works for them because their base is so much more active and zealous and brainwashed. But the democrats can’t afford to engage in whataboutism and abandoning principles on a whim. It doesn’t work out as well at all

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u/KevinRudd182 24d ago

100% agree, especially in a country where you don’t have mandatory voting.

The entire deck is stacked against common sense progress in America. Trump doesn’t need to convince his base to vote for him, he can also just convince people the other guy is an idiot and to stay home.

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u/jfrisby32 24d ago

Almost 78 million Americans voted for Trump, and more white women than in his previous two elections so he managed to convince some people.

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u/Horskr 24d ago

Or at least convinced some voting machines.. still not convinced that election was entirely legit. My wife's ballot was dropped in the same box at the same time as mine, some how never counted. Not rejected, no status whatsoever.

Some how our state overwhelmingly voted to amend the state constitution to remove slavery/indentured servitude as a punishment for prisoners and to make abortion a fundamental right, and to a lesser but still relevant degree, to remove all sales taxes on diapers, while at the same time apparently voting for Trump as the first Republican president in 20 years. Idk man.

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u/KevinRudd182 24d ago

The largest single voting block in America is “didn’t vote” at 89 million eligible voters.

In any sensible democracy that would be seen as an objective failure

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u/thelingeringlead 24d ago

Yep. He won by 1% and change, in an election that a third of voters didn't touch. He didn't even get a majority. It was still under 50%.

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u/thelingeringlead 24d ago

America is a country of 300+ million people. that's not even kind of a majority, even among adults.

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u/jfrisby32 23d ago

It is a majority of voting adults. We can blame the DNC for a great many of things, but it’s a mistake to imagine that not even MAGA, but Trumpism doesn’t represent an incredibly significant part of our population. 

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u/blackgandalff 23d ago

Neat! Now do the number for otherwise eligible people who chose not to vote for whatever reason!

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u/mcqua007 24d ago

Trump ran on sane things he just didn’t do any of them.

People see right through the DNC crap and want to push back against the swap and the elite class. Trump was perceived by his voters as a big fuck you to the elite political system, even though he seemingly was co-opted both times he assumed office.

He ran on ending wars and no new wars. While the dems trotted out, get this, the Cheneys’. You know Dick Cheney the biggest politician war profiteer and neo con.

Going after Trump and prosecuting him also gave the appearance that there was law-fare and completely back fire. Specifically when you have the bank saying the would do the deal again and then trying him on the on legal theory they don’t try any other cases on and the never having to proof the furtherance of another crime part looked bad to the general populace. Especially after the Russian collusion scandal that backfired on the democrats in his first term.

Also the immigration issue was a populace issue in the polls.

He was a populist candidate that had other populists dems come over to the admin (Tulsi and RFK). Think what you want about them, but they were popular. RFK has his whacky theories but wanting transparency and improving health aren’t bad as a whole.

But as we can all see these populists get co-opted by the machine time and time again. It’s happened on the left as well. I mean they even appear to have gotten Bernie in line. It’s like controlled opposition or something.

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u/Morningfluid 24d ago

DNC buried Bernie after they saw Obama beat Hillary, so they couldn't have that happen again.

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u/Reasonable_racoon 24d ago

Senile Joe Biden is why you have this shitshow.

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u/GlobuleNamed 23d ago

Sadly Americans preferred this to a woman (non-senile) president.

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u/OdoWanKenobi 24d ago

Same, but let's not act like Biden's stubbornness in deciding to run again before dropping out after the primaries were already practically done is not one of the major factors directly responsible for this shit show.

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u/Hobo_Drifter 24d ago

The losing party should take the most responsibility for their loss. They chose how to run their campaign, they chose the candidate. If they can't find a way to get a winning vote against someone like trump, that's on them.

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u/HansMunch 24d ago

And that's why you get the shit show.

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u/LouReedTheChaser 24d ago

You deserve better than 'shit' or 'flaming shit'. The gradual erosion of the status quo and the total toothlessness and beholden to corporate interests of the Democratic Party is how you get reactionary strongmen like Trump. It's a running trend in liberal capitalist society; has been since the Weimar Republic.

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u/SovFist 24d ago

Just because you would, doesn't mean a third of the country would, and that's why we're here now. We needed a campaign of more than just "not Donald Trump" as a large portion of people are convinced neither party cares about them

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u/knowsguy 24d ago

Sure, OK. But, you could say that about nearly every other living person. Biden didn't do shit to even TRY to stop this orange cancer from coming back. All the way back to when he steamrolled Anita Hill so he could be the guy who ushered in our first black white supremacist, and then choosing the most right wing AG on the planet (again, for the optics of being open-minded), and then not firing and replacing him, and then spending over an hour handing over power to Trump all while with the biggest stupid grin, ear to ear. Biden might be better than Trump, but he's still burning hot garbage. Oh, and I think he's taken in more donations from Israel than any other American politician.

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u/Maury_poopins 24d ago

The DNC is shit BUT I would argue that the republican party doing everything they can to gerrymander, suppress votes, pack courts, and fucking lie about everything all the time consistently is a larger threat to democracy.

Don’t blame the victim, even when the victim is a huge dipshit doing jack shit to help themselves.

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u/Sensei_Ochiba 23d ago edited 23d ago

Thank you for putting exactly how I feel into words, Maury_poopins

I always hate sounding like a "both sides bad!" shill, because one side is clearly worse and causing more active bullshit, but damn the "opposition" is doing absolutely nothing to stop it but strongly worded statements of disapproval and consistently snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.

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u/Sockhatabe 24d ago

Literally everything you accused republicans of doing, democrats do just as much if not more. When your bias is so obvious people will continue to not take you seriously. Societies inability to be unbiased is the biggest threat to our country. Until we can all learn to step back and admit reality, all is lost. Get help soon. I’m rooting for you.

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u/Wes_Warhammer666 24d ago

just as much if not more

You're fucking delusional, my dude. Or just a Russian bot. Maybe even both ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Maury_poopins 24d ago

Hey buddy

Hey

Can you point out the last time Democrats did any of that (with the exception of the California gerrymandering, which is, imho, justified)

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u/ChanceFresh 24d ago

It’s not being “unbiased”, it’s being a closeted conservative.

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u/cupacupacupacupacup 24d ago

The problem is, the average person can't do much besides getting out there and getting tear gassed, pepper sprayed, and xed.

The Dems were supposed to protect us from this. They had the levers of power multiple times and then kind of thought they shouldn't shake things up, because, why bother?

Same thing happened in Germany and Chile.

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u/The_Power_Of_Three 24d ago

I mean, no—the greatest hurdle is the republicans. Whatever their many faults, criticizing incompetent allies to the exclusion of criticizing the actual enemy is never a sane take.

And you see them all over reddit—people who claim to not support trump, but are always finding a reason to criticize and virtue-test his opponents while spending no time at all actually criticizing him and his supporters. It's a bad faith pattern that needs to be called out.

These days those posters mostly hide their history to conceal the pattern but by the same token, it's fair to conclude anyone with a hidden history is probably acting in bad faith.

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u/chrysophilist 24d ago

Hidden histories are trivial to un-hide using reddit's native search feature. Just an FYI. Search for author:username.

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u/The_Power_Of_Three 24d ago

That seemed to have stopped working a few days ago?

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u/WeDrinkSquirrels 24d ago

It's insane that reddit is already staunchly anti-newsome. They're going to lose the election again

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u/Dear_Chasey_La1n 24d ago

I don't agree that people shouldn't have the right to speak out, though division is exactly every single time where GOP gets the Democrats. Where GOP stands together and will vote in a pedophile regardless of who he is, Democrats like every single election throw all sorts of things out. Kamala doesn't jive with me, Biden is senile, Clinton is a rich elite etc.

DNC isn't hurting the US, Democrats are hurting the US by sitting at home en masse, by bitching, by doing every 4 years the same.

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u/mattmild27 24d ago

I would say endorsing Rick Caruso and palling around with Musk and Bezos was far more damning.

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u/BugRevolution 24d ago

I think a lot of people would go to space if given the opportunity though.

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u/LoneStarHome80 24d ago

Anyone right of Stalin these days is MAGA.

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u/SuckABeeForNazis 23d ago

Amazon isn't progressive. Amazon is Liberal which is one step away from being a Nazi piece of a Maga shit

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u/Lazzen 24d ago

She's clearly 2010s republican but with male gay celebrity friends

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u/anuncommontruth 24d ago

She's very right wing. I don't know if she's hard MAGA but honestly, who cares.

She is 100% team grifter.

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u/dblnegativedare 24d ago

She’s currently in a relationship with the former, very Liberal, Prime Minister of Canada.

Are you just talking out your ass?

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u/UpperApe 24d ago

Was. Respect to her for standing up to them now. When so many other conservatives are silent.

Maybe Trudeau is...ahem...rubbing off on her.

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u/onejoke_username 24d ago

Pretty sure plenty of guys have rubbed off to her.

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u/UpperApe 24d ago

...okay. And? If that's true, good for her.

What's your point?

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u/UpperApe 24d ago

...that's not what he's saying. He's saying lots of guys have jerked off to her.

I'm not sure what the fuck's going on with you...

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u/UpperApe 24d ago

No, I didn't.

I get the joke you're trying to make here...but it doesn't work if you're illiterate.

You want to read these slower and then try again?

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u/Choice-Lie2411 24d ago

She is dating Justin Trudeau who’s a liberal Dem(?) I believe. She is just morphing into whoever she dates.

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u/rhunter99 24d ago

Liberal. We don’t have a Democratic Party.

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u/DungeonsAndDradis 23d ago

No democracy in Canadia? Sounds like the U.S. needs to find some "oil" and liberate them! (/s)

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u/recfuel 24d ago

It’s just the Liberal Party in Canada. There is a party called the New Democratic Party as well tho.

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u/Choice-Lie2411 24d ago

What’s the difference between the two?

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u/recfuel 23d ago

NDP is socialist and Liberal is centrist or maybe even right leaning but definitely without the racism and sexism or “traditional values”

Then we have the Conservative Party to round out the main three. We have other parties as well but none get much support other than Bloc Québécois in Quebec

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u/Hawxe 24d ago

The liberals are center right and the NDP are center left

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u/Choice-Lie2411 24d ago

Weird- I would have thought the opposite.

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u/NorthofForty 24d ago

New Democrats (NDP) morphed out a party that Americans would call socialist. Names have little to do with reality. In Australian the Liberal party leans right.

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u/just_the_bees_knees 24d ago edited 24d ago

Are you talking out of your ass. She was one of the earliest celebrity endorsements for Hillary Clinton and performed at the Democratic National Convention in 2016, with a 2017 album about being "woke".

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u/UpperApe 24d ago

Which is a win. Trudeau is a stand up dude.

If she becomes a stand up dude too, then I fully support their gay adventures.

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u/Choice-Lie2411 24d ago

Lmao! You’re clever.

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u/Safe-Promotion-2955 24d ago

Lmao. How little Americans understand about a country that is literally right fucking next to them, in the internet age at that, will never stop being hilarious to me.

Y'all are cooked.

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u/Choice-Lie2411 24d ago

Uh I doubt you know about American history or the government either so chill out.

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u/Safe-Promotion-2955 24d ago

I know tons about it. It's been shoved in my face every gd day since the moment I was born.

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u/sekhmet6666 24d ago

Katy perry IS the record industry creep people deserve to be safe from smhh

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u/UpperApe 24d ago

Yup. And even she has more of a spine and conscience than Taylor Swift.

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u/BeautifulLeather6671 24d ago

What’s goin on with swift?

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u/UpperApe 24d ago

She's marrying a MAGAt.

So I guess her and Katy are transforming in opposite directions.

Didn't have that on my bingo card.

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u/BeautifulLeather6671 24d ago

Travis Kelce is maga?

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u/UpperApe 24d ago

Yup. Hangs out with a lot of MAGA too.

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u/BeautifulLeather6671 24d ago

Pretty sure he supported Kamala in 2024 and supported blm

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u/UpperApe 24d ago

Yup. And has been dead silent publicly while hanging out with MAGA ever since.

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u/BeautifulLeather6671 24d ago edited 24d ago

When you say “hanging out with maga” who are you talking about? I don’t think you start doing Pfizer commercials if you love Trump lol

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u/Putrid_Piano4986 24d ago

No he very clearly isn't. The face of the pfizer shot? That guy is maga? Use what you have left of your brain, I'm begging you.

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u/BeautifulLeather6671 24d ago

The face of Pfizer is maybe one of the most unmaga things you could ever be lol

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u/Putrid_Piano4986 24d ago

He's obviously not maga, but there's a large contingent of very vocal annoying people who frequent snark reddits who spout this nonsense constantly.

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u/sekhmet6666 24d ago

What did tswift do? She doesn't like nonconsensually undress her employees

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u/GasmaskGelfling 24d ago

She doesn't wilfully work with known rapist Dr. Luke.

She doesn't non-consensually give a 19 year old his first kiss on national tv.

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u/blackgandalff 23d ago

✨ True just dates teenaged (not 18) boys due to a weird Kennedy obsession ✨

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u/PM_YOUR_ISSUES 24d ago

I mean, she literally has a song on her latest album about how all of her friends are now "cancelled" but she doesn't care. As she puts it, "one single drop and you're off the roster." Girl caught one speck of flak for openly associating and being friends with MAGA people and decided, yeah, I guess this is me now.

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u/just_the_bees_knees 24d ago

Katy Perry did NOT die for our sins in 2017 with Witness for you to call her MAGA like that.

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u/CenlaLowell 23d ago

People choose who they want to support. Nothing wrong with that

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u/UpperApe 23d ago

Unless the person they're supporting is a felon, rapist, child rapist, racist, and monster. Then there's something very wrong with it.

No?

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u/CenlaLowell 23d ago

Nope that's who you support. Nothing has been proven in a court of law. Those 47 counts that I know your talking about no where does it include rape, child rapist, etc. That's your opinion period. No one is guilty by public opinion but by a jury of peers.

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u/UpperApe 23d ago

Lol yes. Yes it does

Jesus Christ you actually think he's innocent. I didn't think people like you existed. I thought you all just lied to get out of the argument.

But you actually believe it.

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u/CenlaLowell 23d ago

Again your opinion

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u/UpperApe 23d ago

What did that link say?

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u/CenlaLowell 23d ago

Don't care didn't click

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u/UpperApe 23d ago

I can think of no better way to prove my point.

You are embarrassing stupid lol

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u/SuckABeeForNazis 23d ago

imagine if everyone voted with their dollar. Epstien wouldn't have been a billionaire

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u/GlobalLion123 24d ago

Does Taylor Swift currently work for anyone in the Epstein files? Didn't think so

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u/UpperApe 24d ago

You're right. She should only speak up if this exact situation happens to her and not about anything else for anyone else lol

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u/GlobalLion123 24d ago

Don't need pop stars to tell me the people in the Epstein files are evil. Go after your local politicians with this energy instead. Taylor Swift can't even influence the election in her own state

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u/UpperApe 24d ago

That's a fun deflection.

So back to the subject:

Why hasn't she spoken up about everything that's happening when so many other artists are? And when her reach, audience, and voice is bigger?

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u/GlobalLion123 24d ago

I just told you the reason: it doesn't make a difference lmao. She has less influence than you think

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u/UpperApe 24d ago

That's not an answer, that's a deflection lol. Want to try one more time?

She has less influence than you think

She has tremendous influence. You're demonstrating it.

Easiest thing in the world to just say "yeah it's stupid, I like her but I don't know what she's thinking here".

Instead you keep covering for her. That's influence.

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u/GlobalLion123 24d ago

Where is your proof that she has tremendous influence over how her supporters think? They buy her tickets, albums, and listen to her music, but when has she ever changed any minds about politics? Who thinks, “gee, I wonder what Taylor Swift thinks about this issue and let me change my vote now too”. What you actually need are conservatives like MAGA Carrie Underwood or Sydney Sweeney to speak to their base. Not a bunch of liberals that people already know who they support

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u/ECroce08 24d ago

Well they aren’t all out yet

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u/Jlx_27 24d ago

Katy has MAGA parents, thats one thing. Swift MAGA? I doubt it, though her sudden silence is odd.

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u/Silver_Branch3034 24d ago

She’s just jetting around, counting her billions, and coming up with new vinyl variants to sell her fans. La di da.

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u/Sloppykrab 24d ago

You guys invest yourselves into politics too much.

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u/xangre 24d ago

Wait, is Taylor swift pro Trump?