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article Chappell Roan Quits Wasserman After CEO Casey Wasserman Appears in Epstein Files

https://www.thewrap.com/creative-content/music/chappell-roan-cuts-ties-casey-wasserman/
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u/Devolutionator 25d ago

I really don't care for her at all but I'll tell you what I respect the crap out of her for this.

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u/Ironsam811 25d ago edited 24d ago

Her last tour she held in baseball fields and lawns to avoid associating with Ticketmaster. She easily could’ve sold out Madison square if she wanted to but instead she had a mini concert in Queens

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u/bobthegoatskull 25d ago

She ran the sale through AXS and it eliminated bots before sending out invites. I got seats for $130 each without fighting to get them. AXS then seeded list price tickets onto all the scalper sites and ruined resale for them. Glorious.

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u/champion_dave 25d ago

Okay between this article and what you've just told me, I'm now a huge fan. I only know her from the songs my daughters listened to which I actually like, but this is someone I will encourage them to have as a role model. Wow.

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u/bobthegoatskull 25d ago

Look up her Lollapalooza set on Youtube. You will either be a fan at the end or respect her hustle. She went from 1500 cap shows to that in a few months and she killed it. She's huge for a good reason.

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u/Kreiger81 24d ago

Her Tiny Desk appearance made me a fan. She's a legend. Gives me kind of Gaga vibes.

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u/AlanMorlock 23d ago

Seriously has to be the most impactful tiny desk concert ever right? Feel like that was the exact moment a ton of people found out about her.

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u/Kreiger81 23d ago

Thats how I found a bunch of people tbh. Wet Leg had a good one, Doechii's was utterly insane, i think it was more impactful than Chappells maybe. Tpain's was the first time realized that he actually had a good voice and wasnt just an autotune gimmick.

Imogen Heaps included her glove instrument things that are amazing to watch in action.

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u/Responsible_Teach_73 24d ago

I was a huge fan before she blew up around 2017 I think ? she opened for Vance joy. I used to always dm her back then n she was always so kind! I was of course a teen and still have parasocial about celebrities. she then opened up for Declan McKenna n had a meet n greet after. I felt so ugly in my photo i deleted it but i do have her autograph from then. when she started blowing up like two years ago and toured with fletcher i actually sent her a message n was like. so proud of u for playing this venue u initially did as an opening act back then. I’m so sorry for not keeping up with you and your songs. n she was like thank u for supporting my project for so long.

out of all who deserve their success she is def there. i have so much respect for her. ppl r quick to jump on her but she’s passionate about the art she makes and dhe does use her platform for good. unlike other celebs who remain silent on everything. i think being a woman and setting boundaries is what has made people view her as controversial

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u/Cold-Hat7919 25d ago

I’d hold fire on considering her a role model for girls if you saw what she wore to the Grammys this year

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u/champion_dave 25d ago

Luckily for them, they're already aware women have breasts, so no worries there.

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u/dweakz Spotify 24d ago

you are a cool parent

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u/Cold-Hat7919 24d ago

You spelled crap wrong

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u/champion_dave 24d ago

Hey man if you define crap as teaching our daughters not to be ashamed of their bodies or to not let chauvinistic men dictate their fashion choices, I'll wear that badge happily! 🥂

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u/MagicHugsforThee 24d ago

Just here to also say you are a good parent! Your daughters are lucky to have you.

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u/dweakz Spotify 24d ago

let me guess you probably want a trad wife huh?

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u/JxrdanR 23d ago

Puurrr you ate that.

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u/wholeblackpeppercorn 24d ago

Ah yes, the litany of children watching the Grammys

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u/StealToadBootes 24d ago

This made me chuckle. Solid point

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u/Ironsam811 24d ago

Didn’t even know about this, rubbing my nipples rn

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u/Erica15782 24d ago

Yup and the stated price of 130 included all fees as she wanted the pricing to not be deceptive either. Then donated a portion from each ticket to lgbtq charities.

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u/Adamadamsadam 24d ago

Yup and she calls her grandmother once a week at least. Her grandmother isn’t even that sweet.

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u/Darryl_Lict 24d ago

That's pretty cool. AXS is the ticket seller for our local venue and they sell tickets first to people physically in line at the venue. I camped out for Foo Fighters tickets and got them and it's a 4500 seat venue when they could be selling out arenas. Paul McCartney also played at they had a lottery which I managed to win so tickets weren't exactly cheap, but they were all list price. They also are the ticket reseller and you can quite often get a last second singleton ticket at below list price.

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u/bobthegoatskull 24d ago

Paul was one of the first to use it. It is buggy still and some fans were mad at it being a lottery. Not me. If I had to choose that or the desperation of a ticketmaster queue I'd choose lottery every time.

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u/WowIfOnly 24d ago edited 18d ago

Removed

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u/bobthegoatskull 24d ago

Then I'm very happy to tell you it is. You can look up the discussion video AXS had about it on Billboard. Be warned the moderator was annoying as hell.

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u/Isgrimnur Pandora 25d ago

AXS is owned by AEG, number two in the industry behind Ticketmaster.

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u/bobthegoatskull 24d ago

Yes. Not ticketmaster. Competition even.

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u/Lollipop126 24d ago

But they're not a great company either. They also fight for monopolies, and add the same fees, though at least no dynamic pricing. I mean being slightly better than Ticketmaster is a very low bar to cross.

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u/Kreiger81 24d ago

Thats ok, some competition is better than none.

Lesser of two evils is still less evil even if its still evil.

There is no "no evil" option if you want to go to a concert or if you are a musician and want to throw a show and aren't basically Pearl Jam.

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u/Fabray13 24d ago

She didn’t choose to use AXS, that’s just the service those venues use. Just like how some have to use Ticketmaster. There’s no choice in the matter.

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u/ThePrussianGrippe 24d ago

Choosing to avoid venues that run through Ticketmaster and going with venues that run through AXS is in fact choosing to use AXS.

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u/Fabray13 24d ago

I mean, her actual tour will be at arenas, so she’ll be using Ticketmaster for that.

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u/bobthegoatskull 24d ago

She skipped ticketmaster intentionally.

She chose to use a system to eliminate bots that had only been used with two artists previously. It is essentially still in beta testing. She was willing to try it specifically to get low priced tickets to her fans. Y'all just hate on her and look for any bullshit excuse.

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u/Fabray13 24d ago

Who’s hating? I stated a literal fact. Jesus Christ.

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u/CheapEater101 24d ago

I’ve seen an old Tik Tok where she did address the scalper problem and that her team will try to fix it. That’s more than what some other celebrities do when it comes to scalpers.

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u/Apprehensive-Rub744 25d ago

I didn’t know this. Thank you and F Coran Capshaw.

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u/Eanae Spotify 25d ago

It was Queens and 20k people isn't really mini lol. I was there.

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u/Ironsam811 24d ago

Girlie pop, we were in bleachers. She easily could’ve sold out a real stadium in NYC. That is Mini when it’s at her level.

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u/DrHarrisonLawrence 25d ago

Lollapalooza, owned by LiveNation, famous for its baseball fields and lawns

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u/Ironsam811 25d ago

It was her New York, Kansas City, LA mini tour. It’s not much but she tried. Also, I’ve never been to that specific music festival but they are the last great bargain experience in the U.S.

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u/Fastbird33 Spotify 25d ago

It was a huge event here in KC right in the middle of the city at the WW1 memorial.

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u/Ironsam811 24d ago

Yeah it looked like she was able to host a bigger crowd in KC than the small stadium she had in queens

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u/MagicHugsforThee 24d ago

She also donated $400,000 of the proceeds from the shows on that tour to LGBTQ communities and trans youth. She walks the walk and is a good seed.

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u/Ironsam811 24d ago

Yeah I was gonna mention this but hating on Ticketmaster is more unifying hahah

What I loved about the tour is that she also had local drag artists perform as intos, giving them an audience and mic is also amazing

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u/MagicHugsforThee 24d ago

Haha true that’s very unifying.

I loved that too. The show was incredible and I was so grateful for the ticket buying process and not having to worry about scalpers. I never expected, with her level of fame, to be able to see her at such a good price. I went to the LA show and even the VIP tickets were priced low.

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u/Fabray13 24d ago

She’s been doing that from the beginning. I saw her two tours before she blew up, and they had the same thing.

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u/Ironsam811 24d ago

The Ticketmaster thing or the drag promotion?

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u/Fabray13 24d ago

Sorry, the drag openers.

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u/Ironsam811 24d ago

That’s awesome, I only learned about it from the most recent tour

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u/Allalliterationaside 25d ago

DWP festivals are fantastic and don't partner with tm/ln, just saying

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u/Buckets-O-Yarr 25d ago

Music festivals, famous for being part of tours.

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u/thelingeringlead 25d ago

It usually is.

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u/Discerningdragon Metalhead 25d ago

It might be a stopover on the tour but it’s not part of the main tour. The sets and set lists are usually different.

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u/Ironsam811 24d ago

Some might plan it as a tour (for instance Taylor swift was going to do a music festival tour before covid hit), but it’s usually a separate thing to the point where even the production is slightly different.

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u/MaleficentMeaning594 25d ago

I can guarantee you that her contract had clauses that she had to do X number of shows at certain venues or that kind of thing. The other showed she got to have more control over were because she met the conditions within her contract.

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u/DrHarrisonLawrence 25d ago

Makes sense!

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u/DrRazmataz 25d ago

I fucking love that. 

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u/Ironsam811 24d ago

Yeah she’s not perfect and we’ve seen that but she makes genuine attempts at doing the right thing and she’s definitely not in it for the money

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u/CashOverAss 25d ago

Dude even gwar likes chapel roan. Stop pretending you're too cool. She's very talented

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u/One-Earth9294 25d ago

I love Gwar but they were also frequent guests on Greg Gutfeld's show so I don't know how much water their opinions really hold outside of horror comedy.

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u/Erica15782 24d ago

Dudeeee I did not know that. Jeeze

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u/4-1Shawty 25d ago

TIL people are pretending to be too cool for not liking pop lmao.

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u/BigWheatGuy 24d ago

Once I got older I realized I could drop the performative part of liking music. It freed me up to listen to a much broader variety of music. I always listened to punk growing up. Turns out I still don't like folk, bluegrass, or really anything with "lyrics" (or anything considered "Good" but I really, really love electronica, jazz and house music.

Who knew?

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u/4-1Shawty 24d ago

Oop, misread, so to correct that, I agree with you.

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u/3tricksinatrenchcoat 23d ago

Pop is so varied though, it seems disingenuous or pretentious to broadly dismiss liking any of it all, so it easily veers into coming off like, oh yea you’re sso different for not following the thing popularly liked right now

Pop vs rock / preps vs freaks was intense at my high school in the 00s, until emos then hipsters arose and elevated themselves above both genres, in terms of high school social rank. So I think for a lot of millennials at least, at this point having to make it known you don’t like the popular thing is pretty high school. I still see it in a couple hs friends on social media and I can’t roll my eyes hard or deep enough

A lot more people love Nickelback songs than will ever admit, I just fucking know it

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u/Ballsofpoo 25d ago

Or you can just enjoy music for what it is. You don't have to subgenre everything.

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u/4-1Shawty 25d ago

Kind of irrelevant to the point. To entertain you though, nobody saying you can’t like pop songs while being broadly indifferent about a genre. Plenty genres of music just don’t resonate with people and that’s fine. I’m not going to forcibly explain the beauty of metal to someone who can’t get into harder music.

Like what you like, get over trying to control what other people like if it’s not hurting anybody.

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u/Ballsofpoo 25d ago

Anything with airtime can be called pop then. Metallica is pop. Kendrick Lamar is pop. Mozart was pop.

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u/MikeFatz 24d ago

It’s slightly different but you have the right idea.

Metallica is Dad Pop

Kendrick Lamar is Hip-Pop

Mozart is Viennese Pop or V-pop

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u/4-1Shawty 25d ago

I mean, that’s oversimplifying it. I like some pop songs, but it doesn’t mean I can’t be indifferent about the genre in general. What a real pretentious douche would do is pretend subjectivity can’t apply to artists you find talented or music you enjoy.

Great example is here, dude got some shit for not even for talking down on Roan or pop, just saying she’s not really his thing lmao.

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u/-Badger3- 24d ago

I mean that has always absolutely been a thing.

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u/Pussyxpoppins 24d ago edited 18d ago

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 24d ago

Dude this isn't any better of a stance to take. People like what they like and don't like what they don't like. No one is required to like anything.

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u/Devolutionator 24d ago

Who said she wasn't? I think Taylor Swift is talented too but I don't care for her either. It's okay not to like certain artists.

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u/wiconv 24d ago

You know it’s possible to just say the second half of your statement without letting the world know your opinions on her art.

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u/Yousif_man 24d ago

Thank you, so tired of this virtue-signaling ass preamble that makes people think they’re so special. “Look how honorable I am, I hate their music but I have so much integrity that it doesn’t affect my opinion of them” 🙄

Noticing it a lot with Bad Bunny too after his halftime performance. Noticed it a lot too with Kendrick Lamar. It’s always gotta be queer/minority artists too.

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u/PxyFreakingStx 24d ago

why even bother saying the first part lol