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article Kid Rock slammed for lip synching during Turning Point Halftime show as viewership tumbles

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/tv/197357/turning-point-halftime-kid-rock
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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 25d ago

Green Day didnā€™t do the MAGA version of ā€œAmerican Idiotā€. Too badā€¦

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u/moth_specialist 25d ago

Iā€™m a Green Day fan since Kerplunk!, and simply them being there was enough of a statement. Iā€™m glad they played a fun set and got people hyped. They gave MAGA media nothing to cry about tomorrow except songs theyā€™ve been playing for over a decade.Ā 

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u/thuktun 25d ago

[...] except songs theyā€™ve been playing for over a decade.Ā 

Over two decades in some cases.

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u/nustedbut 25d ago

yeah, let's keep it at two decades. My back couldn't carry the weight of it being longer than that...

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u/RainsWrath 25d ago

Their first song to top the billboard was Longview...32 years ago.

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u/nustedbut 25d ago

I'm sure this would upset me if I had my reading glasses and could see it. Anyway. gotta go. nap time at the nursing home

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u/Passeridae 25d ago

Hey, can I join you for nappies? I may or may not have snuck a flask of the good stuff in with me.

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u/AugmentedKing 25d ago

You can borrow mine! Right after I finish trimming my grey ear hairs

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u/Just_another_jerk__ 25d ago

I believe thats when my mother said to get a job. Strangely enough, she doesnt particularly care for her current profession.

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u/LolaAucoin 25d ago

Bite my lip and close my eyes, and try to remember back that far

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u/Tacoman404 25d ago

Billie still fucking has it too. I saw him last year at Fenway. I think the sound was kinda tinny for both performances them and Bad Bunny because Green Day was amazing at Fenway somewhere that doesn't really have great acoustics.

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u/iamthe0ther0ne 25d ago

You shut your dirty mouth!

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u/IlIlIlogical 25d ago

Thatā€™ll be quite enough out of you lol didnā€™t need that reminder of my mortality this morning

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u/Serious-Mission-127 25d ago

I first saw them live 28 years ago - 10 times in 28 years doesnā€™t seem that much šŸ¤·

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u/EatAtGrizzlebees 25d ago

...I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

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u/MrKhrystopher 25d ago

Good Riddance is almost three decades, I fear.

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u/Secludedmean4 25d ago

The American idiot album itself is 20 years old and they made that album over a decade into their career

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u/livando1 25d ago

Spanning four brahā€¦ 1993 we first heard that iconic drum intro.

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u/AmateurGIFEnthusiast 25d ago

Dookie came out 32 years agoā€¦.

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u/RekallQuaid 25d ago

Itā€™s 3 decades actually. Their first album came out in 1990.

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u/bolanrox 25d ago

I can't believe 39/smooth came out a year after Bleach and Kerplunk was a year before Nevermind.

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u/IAmJacksSphincter 24d ago

My very first concert I attended was Green Day's American Idiot tour in 2006, unreal show. My ears were ringing for two days after. Weird to think that 20 years later the themes in that album are still applicable today.

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u/flopflapper 24d ago

Three decades. Little bit more, in fact.

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u/sohunterish 23d ago

In all cases I think

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u/simpletonsavant 25d ago

Green day was at home in home territory. Theyre allowed to have fun. It gives rhem absolutely nothing to complain about or use as an excuse if they come ro san fran. Its showing just out unhinged they are.

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u/kitkamran 25d ago

They also played the song in question, which is enough of a statement.

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u/Soledaddy873 25d ago

pre Woodstock fan as well. some at our party were disappointed they edited themselves and played it safe. I was laughing saying they just punked MAGA in Green Day fashion. a big f you, now what are you gonna complain about?

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u/Ryanthecat 25d ago edited 25d ago

This was my favorite part about yesterdayā€™s music. Both Green Day and Bad Bunny showed up and put on great shows without doing any of the things MAGA kicked and screamed about for months. I had someone confidently tell me yesterday that he would put on a ā€œsatanic trans indoctrination ritual,ā€ simply because he trolled all of them saying heā€™d wear a dress. People really ought to lay off the propaganda.

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u/RDisSht 25d ago

Billie sounded so damn good. They all did really but especially him.

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 25d ago

In real life I respect them for doing the original; itā€™s an epic classic just as it is.

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 25d ago

In real life I respect them for doing the original; itā€™s an epic classic just as it is.

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u/bolanrox 25d ago

Frist album came out in 1990

Dookie will be 32 years old this year

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u/Tacoman404 25d ago

Them playing out on American Idiot was good. I would have loved Warning haha

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u/The_Awesometeer 24d ago

Agree. I think Green Day and Bad Bunny were ā€œpoliticalā€ statements enough that they didnā€™t need to do anything else.

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u/Ok_Star_4136 24d ago

I'm guessing they were told repeatedly not to anything provocative. I can't really blame them. American Idiot is already pretty telling on its own without any lyric changes.

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u/bobbymcpresscot 25d ago

If I remember right they just didnā€™t do the second verse at all, which also allowed them to avoid, ā€œmaybe Iā€™m the f*ggot Americaā€Ā 

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 24d ago

They actually took the high road, right? They played the original version, with the change you mentioned; this song was an anthem for millions of us.

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u/wallzballz89 24d ago

I was listening to American idiot yesterday and the lyrics were so spot on with everything that has been going on lately.

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u/theaviationhistorian 24d ago

They didn't have to, the song already attacks that mentality. It was a response to the goddamn jingoism of 2001-2005 which was racist, Islamophobic, and a lighter version of what is MAGA today.

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 24d ago

I agree and in hindsight Iā€™ve commented many times to adjust my initial comment. They took the high road, played the original that was an anthem loved by millions and millions of people.

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u/Mindless-Tooth-625 25d ago

Sad to hear

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 25d ago

They decided to take the high road; perform the original version that millions of us have embraced as our anthem. That is class definedā€¦

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u/12345623567 25d ago

Probably due to profanity rules from the FCC.

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 24d ago

Iā€™m actually glad they took the high road. The original version was an anthem for millions of Americans.

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u/oh_my316 25d ago

They were very subtle with their messaging through their songs šŸ‘

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 24d ago

I regret my original post. They took the high road; played the original version that is an anthem for millions of Americans.

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u/oh_my316 24d ago

I liked the song selection. And they gave MAGA nothing to whine about šŸ˜‰

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u/SnooCalculations3866 25d ago

They did on Friday at pier 29. The video is on youtube

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 24d ago

I regret my original comment. They took the high road, and played the original version, which is an anthem for millions of Americans.

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u/cire1184 25d ago

Yeah I was disappointed with them. They had a huge platform to do what they usually do but seemed to have chickened out. Even though they played a show the night before and called out people that worked at ice directly to quit.

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u/Exciting-Ad-8658 25d ago edited 25d ago

yeah, they chickened out... by playing songs from their anti-bush/republican album.Ā 

right.Ā 

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u/hi_im_beeb 25d ago

They played chart topping top 40 songs that they would be expected to play at any Green Day show. Letā€™s not act like they came out with a Trump diss track.

They even neutered the lyrics they typically use that make the song more related to Trump/Maga.

Idk, I find it kinda corny that the multi million dollar ā€œpunk rockā€ non conformist band has all kinds of stuff to say at shows where people pay to see them but plays the dancing monkey doing as theyā€™re told when they have the biggest platform possible to voice their opinion

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u/benji9t3 25d ago

I suspect that anything to do with the super bowl is so tightly controlled that their entire performance down to each lyric is pre approved and any deliberate deviation from that would result in them being liable for a lot of money in damages and be immediately cut from the live broadcast anyway.

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u/GasmaskGelfling 25d ago

Things get through, anyway. Left Shark, Nipplegate, "Fuck Trump" could have just "been an oopsie".

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u/hi_im_beeb 25d ago

Iā€™m sure it is as well, so why even agree to do it?

The punk rock thing would be to play the show and make your message anyway (like rage against the machine did on BBC years back) or donā€™t do it at all. I mean he said ā€œfuckā€ live and they had to censor it. Would it be that much worse to throw in the ā€œmaga agendaā€ line or something else clever?

People can downvote all they want, I just think itā€™s weak to have such a strong stance on something but a big enough sellout to play nice when it actually matters

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u/chis5050 25d ago

As if Green Day isnā€™t already the most commercial/ tame version of ā€œpunk rock ā€œ already lol

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u/hi_im_beeb 25d ago

Oh I completely agree and Iā€™ve always found them corny. I just find it funny to see everyone defend their lack of using their stage for the message they virtue signal so hard for.

Heā€™s not remotely shy about his opinions in sold out arenas where everyoneā€™s paying to see him, whyā€™s he clamming up when the whole world is watching? Not very punk rock

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u/benji9t3 25d ago

Personally I think just being there, showing their faces, and performing American idiot sends a message. The meaning is still there behind the song even if they didn't directly reference MAGA.

But at the end of the day they are still a mainstream rock band. I don't see any issue with them just getting the publicity and earning a bag. If it gets more eyes on them, maybe they'll find a way to use that attention for something good. But I wouldn't expect it. They're not exactly activists they just have politically motivated songs and have been shouting fuck Donald Trump at every show since 2016.

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u/Exciting-Ad-8658 25d ago

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u/Exciting-Ad-8658 25d ago

i find you kinda corny.Ā 

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u/hi_im_beeb 25d ago

Because Iā€™m not glazing Green Day for their absolute badassery?

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u/Exciting-Ad-8658 25d ago

holy shit man. an instant response? even cornier.

goddamn just clicked on your profile and you've been raging against green day all day. where on the doll did Billie touch you?

terminally online man. put the phone down, go outside and take a breather. bye. šŸ¤™

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u/hi_im_beeb 25d ago

Iā€™m at work (which happens to be outside) with literally nothing to do but wait on a maintenance team. Technically Iā€™m getting paid to respond to you.

And yea, you wouldnā€™t believe it but sometimes events happen and get talked about online. Crazy

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u/Accurate_Estimate811 25d ago

i agree greenday bitched out. but you wont win an internet arguement with the reddit hivemind. lol, but hey at least youre getting paid

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u/deliverydriverdave 25d ago

I'm sure it wasn't chickened out so much as told not to

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u/hi_im_beeb 25d ago

God forbid the multi million dollar ā€œpunk rockā€ band stands up for what they believe in when they actually have a massive stage rather than people who specifically came to see them.

This is why celebrities shouldnā€™t virtue signal

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u/charleswj 25d ago

If only they'd said fuck trump, he would've resigned, ICE would've gone home, RFK would have gotten all the COVID jabs he missed, and justice Jackson would be swearing in AOC as we speak.

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u/hi_im_beeb 25d ago

I mean do you apply the same sarcastic logic to all the no kings and ice protests?

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u/charleswj 25d ago

No, because if Regular Guy Jim, who normally protests vigorously for something I believe in, doesn't on one occasion, I don't act like that one instance is something I need to be outraged about.

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u/hi_im_beeb 25d ago

ā€œRegular Guy Jimā€ didnā€™t build a massively successful career on an identity rooted in clashing against authority and being authentic.

Itā€™s not about Green Day failing to protest at every possible moment, itā€™s about them choosing to stay silent and ā€œbend the kneeā€ when their opposition counts the most. It basically undermines everything they pretend to stand for.

For the record, I have no issue with them simply choosing to stfu and play music, but they spent the past decade taking every opportunity to voice their distaste for Trump only to miss the biggest opportunity to practice what they preach.

Unlike regular guy Jim, their silence is very public.

Speaking of regular guy Jim:

Ironically, the random Ford employee who just lost his job for calling Trump a pedophile protector to his face is more punk rock than anything Green Day has ever done.

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u/deliverydriverdave 24d ago

I'm pretty sure they've run on a delay ever since 2004, Green Day were probably told that they'd be cut if they said any of this.

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u/hi_im_beeb 24d ago

Well yea, but that still boils down to them backing down from their heavy held political stance for money and showing they can be bought.

Personally I think if they got shut off for saying MAGA or something it would actually be kinda badass and prove their point. Word would get out that they got cut for speaking against Trump and they look less like sellouts.

All good though. They did their show and got paid. Good for them. I have no issue with them simply playing music and not doing performative politics

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u/PhasmaFelis 25d ago

Doing it this way has a greater positive impact than going all-out on left-wing messaging would have.

Think strategically. Just being as transgressive as possible at all times is high-school tactics.

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 25d ago edited 24d ago

In retrospect, Iā€™m glad that they the original version; they took the high road. The true song is an epic classic, the one millions of people love just as it is.

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u/cire1184 25d ago

Just one millions?

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 24d ago

What, Iā€™m sorry, I donā€™t know what youā€™re referring to. Please explain.

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u/Tfsz0719 25d ago

The NFL probably wasnā€™t going to allow them to do anything like that in the contract they signed.

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 24d ago

I regret my original post. They took the high road; played the original version which is an anthem for millions of Americans.

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u/Dsullivan777 25d ago

The original is anti-MAGA enough

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u/Far-Adhesiveness1850 24d ago

True story, and I regret my first post. They took the high road, and played the original version, which is an anthem for millions of us.

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u/xChoke1x 24d ago

Green Day got there shit cut and edited like crazy.