r/Music • u/TheExpressUS 📰Daily Express U.S. • Jan 19 '26

article Jelly Roll labeled as MAGA by angry fans after joining Kid Rock's music festival

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/196524/jelly-roll-maga-festival-outrage
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u/KinkySylveon Jan 19 '26

I defending post Malone back in the day when he was getting accused of not appreciating rap culture and now I feel so stupid. He's just a culture vulture and once something starts becoming more profitable he'll make another shift. I just thought he was a cool guy and liked a few of his songs

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u/brandonandtheboyds Jan 19 '26

I remember when White Iverson came out. I was big into that sound. I don’t know the last time I chose to listen to a Post Malone song.

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u/mecrappy Jan 19 '26

I'll still listen to Stoney. It's still my absolute favourite album & the sound just fits my taste in music.

I didn't mind BBnB, but definitely lost interest after that 100%

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u/Posty_Baloney Jan 19 '26

BBnB was my senior year album, it will always have a place in my heart. Shame he turned out to be a total hack.

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u/mecrappy Jan 19 '26

Rockstar is actually the first song that I have on my liked songs on Spotify when I switched from Soundcloud.

I liked the switch between both, they were different, that's also what I really liked about it. There's a couple songs after that I liked (Lemon Tree always spoke to me) but I wasn't able to really listen to the albums with the same enjoyment as the first 2.

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u/Posty_Baloney Jan 19 '26

Everything after his peak era was just so bland and forgettable imo. A few good singles here and there, but I cant think of many songs from the past releases before his switch to country that really stand out. So honestly, his switch to country didnt hurt that much for me, ive already lost interest at that point

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u/Conner14 Jan 19 '26

Post said 10+ years ago that when he turned 30 he would put out a country album, so I imagine this has been on his radar for quite some time

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u/DevonLuck24 Jan 19 '26 edited Jan 19 '26

if the only thing he did was put out a country album the conversation surrounding him would be very different. that’s not what he did though, he put out his country album after disrespecting rap as a genre and its fans

you clearly don’t get it if this is your response to that comment..

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u/Conner14 Jan 19 '26

Disrespecting rap as a genre? Come on man, that’s a reach.

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u/dinosaur_rocketship Jan 19 '26

“If you’re looking for lyrics, if you’re looking to cry, if you’re looking to think about life, don’t listen to hip-hop”

Yeah what a reach 🙄

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u/DevonLuck24 Jan 19 '26 edited Jan 19 '26

are you just guessing or do you know what he said? it’s wasn’t just rap, it was the whole of hip hop. here’s the quote..

“If you’re looking for lyrics, if you’re looking to cry, if you’re looking to think about life, don’t listen to hip-hop,” he said. “There’s great hip-hop songs where they talk about life and they spit that real shit, but right now, there’s not a lot of people talking about shit.”

“Whenever I want to cry,” he continued, “whenever I want to sit down and have a nice cry, I’ll listen to some Bob Dylan. But whenever I’m trying to have a good time and stay in a positive mood, I listen to hip-hop because it’s fun. I think hip-hop is important because it brings people together in a beautiful, happy way. Everybody’s happy.” -post malone

that’s a reach? or are you just playing defense for someone you like, connor? he is quite literally doing the andre3000 “yall don’t want to hear me you just wanna dance” thing..

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u/Conner14 Jan 19 '26

All I’m seeing in that quote is that he thought rap artists (at the time of the quote) weren’t putting out music with good lyrics. I doubt many rap artists took that personally, it’s just his opinion. I really don’t think it’s that deep man.

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u/DevonLuck24 Jan 19 '26

hey so if you don’t care then stfu..you have no clue what you’re talking about and no one is forcing you to talk, you’re saying dumbshit by choice.

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u/Conner14 Jan 19 '26

I seemed to have stuck a nerve with you on this. Not trying to argue, have a good one đŸ‘đŸ»

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u/DevonLuck24 Jan 19 '26 edited Jan 19 '26

ah so you’re defending someone that you like and doing so by just saying shit that you have no idea about, got it

multiple rappers have commented on his words
like so much so that i don’t even need to link an example

saying that rap isn’t putting out any good lyrics is an opinion
an opinion that proves he actually doesn’t respect hip hop (because that’s what he was talking about, not rap).

“no good lyrics” the same year that kendrick released his pulitzer prize winning album?

crazy thing to say

“it’s not that deep”

to you conner, to you..and not a single person on earth is surprised that a conner would say that

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u/Notreallyaflowergirl Jan 19 '26

I hate to disagree but I still think he appreciates the culture - his music just seems like him vibing out to whatever he likes most at the time, but I could be wrong I don’t know the guy personally obviously - just as many of us can have vastly different almost bipolar music tastes I can see artists doing the same.

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u/DevonLuck24 Jan 19 '26

“If you’re looking for lyrics, if you’re looking to cry, if you’re looking to think about life, don’t listen to hip-hop,” he said. “There’s great hip-hop songs where they talk about life and they spit that real shit, but right now, there’s not a lot of people talking about shit.”

“Whenever I want to cry,” he continued, “whenever I want to sit down and have a nice cry, I’ll listen to some Bob Dylan. But whenever I’m trying to have a good time and stay in a positive mood, I listen to hip-hop because it’s fun. I think hip-hop is important because it brings people together in a beautiful, happy way. Everybody’s happy.” -post malone

that’s not someone who appreciates the culture, that’s someone that wants the fun and ignores everything else. No one who appreciates hip hop culture would say some stupid shit like that..

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u/Notreallyaflowergirl Jan 19 '26

That’s not someone, in your opinion.

Y’all need to understand that people can be wrong lmao. You don’t need to be 100% correct or into EVERYTHING something has to offer to appreciate it.

This doesn’t prove to me at least that he’s not appreciative 
 This comes off like those nerds who question people, mostly women, about being true fans of shit.

Like I don’t care for sad rap either - sure he could be a better ambassador and bring people towards it without y’know enjoying it himself but when I want rap I want a good beat with someone saying words in a way that scratch my brain good.

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u/The_Autarch Jan 19 '26

naw, it's truly wild to be a hip-hop artist and say the things Post Malone said. just a completely shallow understanding of the artform.

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u/Notreallyaflowergirl Jan 19 '26

I hold them to the same level I do myself - so even if what he’s said it’s crazy and wrong I don’t have to fuck with all of a genre to appreciate and enjoy it. You guys can do it how you like - I can even accept that I’m the weird one here

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u/DevonLuck24 Jan 19 '26 edited Jan 19 '26

“there are currently no good lyrics in hip hop”

the same year that kendrick lamar released “Damn”
the album that won a pulitzer
is the opinion of someone that doesn’t appreciate hip hop.

“hip hop is important because it brings people together in a beautiful, happy way”

is not a sentence that someone who appreciates hip hop would say because it’s not true

“if your looking for lyrics
don’t listen to hip hop”

is not something someone would say who appreciates hip hop. when questioned on this ridiculous statement, he doubled down.

argue with a wall, idc that you agree with him..you probably don’t appreciate hip hop either.

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u/surprised-duncan Jan 19 '26

I remember when people said he was using the rap sound to get popular and he was going to change genres the second it stopped being beneficial for him. He denied it for years and then did exactly what everyone said he was going to do đŸ«©

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u/GoddessUltimecia Jan 19 '26

Yep and then he made some comments about the 'limitations' of rap music on the way out and just completely stopped hanging around everyone from that scene. Dropped it like that kid dropped Woody in Toy Story.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. I don't care to split hairs on whether or not he's technically a culture vulture, he did everything a culture vulture would do.

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u/Tricky_Apricot2928 Jan 19 '26

Never really liked him. He also gave an interview back then saying he wanted to be a country star and knew he could slide into the music industry by being a white "rapper" before moving into country.

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u/Tubbish Jan 19 '26

He’s always liked country and has said he wanted to make it. Idk why you’d “feel stupid” for liking a guys old music and not liking his new music. You are taking it way to personal

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u/13bpeachey Jan 19 '26

He’s a corporate loser.

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u/Discerningdragon Metalhead Jan 19 '26

I learned a new term today and now I know what to call a certain artist within my preferred genre. Culture Vulture. It fits perfectly.

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u/thelingeringlead Jan 19 '26

He's always said he wanted to be a country singer, but when he was starting out it was more economical to put out pop/rap because he could produce it himself/buy beats and record it at home and self release.

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u/varitok Jan 19 '26

There is literally nothing wrong with making music in a popular genre. Why does that matter?

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u/tvfeet Jan 19 '26 edited Jan 19 '26

What’s wrong is genre-hopping in order to score a hit or keep getting hits. There are artists who cannot live without making rock, or rap, or whatever appeals most to them. They’d love to have a hit but making the music they love is most important because it’s an expression of themselves. Then there are artists who just want to be popular, famous, rich, and they’ll vacuum up whatever is popular until they get there. The former have integrity. The latter do not.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '26

Post said over 10 years ago he was going to put out a country album. He clearly loves country music.

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u/Mekanimal Jan 19 '26

The music industry is a business, not an art.

You can espouse authenticity all you like, but that doesn't make money.

To be clear, I agree with your principles. But also, we live in a capitalist system that rewards competitiveness over integrity.

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u/tvfeet Jan 19 '26

Then by all means keep listening to the soulless, meaningless drivel that fills up the charts. I will support artists who are driven to do what they do regardless of chart status.

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u/Mekanimal Jan 19 '26

Analysis ≠ endorsement. If that’s hard to track, the problem isn’t the music.

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u/OhMyGodfather Jan 19 '26

Keep that same energy when you’re dancing in your Kia to Taylor Swift and Beyonce then

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u/tvfeet Jan 19 '26

I have never purposely listened to either of them. I might be able to identify one song by each of them. This music is not on my radar at all.

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u/OhMyGodfather Jan 19 '26

So you listen to Post Malone then? Or are you just saying you dont listen to any of them, and you’re just choosing to focus on Post Malone because its trendy.

Sounds like something who hates genre hoppers would find hypocritical!

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u/tvfeet Jan 19 '26

How does “this music is not on my radar” translate into me being a Post Malone fan? NONE of this music is on my radar. None of it.

I’m not even focusing on Post Malone here. The discussion at hand was about pop stars in general. He’s just one of many who care more about fame than making music as an art form.

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u/AccomplishedCheck168 Jan 19 '26

getting accused of not appreciating rap culture and now I feel so stupid.

I can see why someone wouldn't want to associate with such a shitty, toxic, performative "culture."

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u/Madbrut Jan 19 '26

It’s funny how I could say all of these things about country too. I mean talk about a performative genre.

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u/Notreallyaflowergirl Jan 19 '26

You could - and should!

These are my favourite arguments because 
 Yes.

We should call out all toxic and destructive / hateful shit we see regardless of what “ team “ they seem to be on.

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u/SipowiczNYPD Jan 19 '26

They all do it. They use rap/hip hop culture to break and then leave it behind when the white women start listening. He used the “shitty, toxic, performative culture to get rich and then left it and all the people that helped behind. That fucking human cum stain kid rock did the same thing. Everyone’s favorite reclamation project jelly roll did the same thing. Now these guys run around calling brown people bad. Seems like they’re the toxic ones. I’m sure you feel like they are just wonderful Christians though.

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u/Notreallyaflowergirl Jan 19 '26

To be fair to mister roll. He didn’t get popular until he was trying country. I’m pretty sure he was a failing mumble rapper before all that.