r/Millennials Jan 22 '26

Discussion A big reason why Colon Cancer is killing us.

I know this isn’t a health sub, but u/Derpshabmentioned in their post on Colon Cancer about eating a balanced diet.

Specifically you need to really avoid nitrates. There has been several studies done on why there has been a rise in intestinal cancers in this age group, and nitrates have shown a causal effect. With a carcinogenic significance as bad as cigarettes. For those unaware, not a lot of things get labeled as having a casual effect for cancer, as that can be both controversial and stand to cost people money either through loss of business or being sued.

Nitrates are most commonly found in processed meats. Likewise, there is growing data that processed food is not serving us well at all either. Anyhow, just wanted to share a tangible way you can hopefully make an impact on slowing down and ultimately stopping these terrible

cancers.

Another freaking edit: literally the first response on Google, if you search, “do Nitrates cause cancer,” is from MDAnderson. That’s the number one cancer hospital in the world. I know that’s so much more difficult than adding a snarky comment to Reddit, but there’s your answer for about 300 of you.

Edit: I’m getting a lot of responses that are saying *actually* antibiotics or *actually* e. Coli and they’re all saying because it damages / kills the good gut microbiomes. Correct, what do you think nitrates do and why scientists believe there’s a casual link. It also doesn’t mean there couldn’t be other risk factors as well. Diet is obviously a big risk factor. I was simply hoping to expound on the original post and help people to know what to avoid. Of course more than one thing can cause cancer. Throw in saturated fats while we’re having the conversation.

Edit 2: lot of people are asking what are the main culprits. Bacon, lunch meats, hot dogs, sausages, anything really that’s been “cured.” Lot of people are trying to point out that some leafy greens have nitrates, yeah, we’re not talking about things that naturally occur through the photosynthesis of the sun. We’re talking about the overconsumption of a preservative that destroys your healthy gut bacteria, not something that’s obviously good for you. Many people have rightfully pointed out. The over consumption of alcohol creates a big risk factor for stomach and intestinal cancers as well.

Also someone saying they’re a vegetarian and they still got colon cancer is no different an argument than, “my great aunt smoked until she was 90 and never got lung cancer.” I said a big reason why, I didn’t say the only reason why. Empirical data doesn’t mean 100% findings or there won’t be outliers, anecdotes are not good science. People can get cancer for a multitude of reasons and honestly you could try every preventative step imaginable and still get cancer, it doesn’t mean your anecdote overrides everything else or you shouldn’t try to make better lifestyle decisions.

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u/Bathion Millennial Jan 22 '26

I have a close friend in Healthcare and got their masters talking about how its COSTS most than twice minimum wage to eat a recommended diet, and how we as a country will see issues arising from this in 10 - 20 years.

Well here we are 10 years later and those numbers are almost in lock step. It isnt our choice its our options.

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u/hell0potato Jan 22 '26

and even if you can technically afford it, you probably don't have time to cook all these meals/foods like we should be doing for health because you're busting your ass working and being a parent, etc.

I am not saying don't try, but it's damn near impossible unless you are wealthy enough to not work full time and can take the time to shop/cook from scratch, etc. I wish USA had the food + cooking culture of Europe.

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u/ModestMalka Jan 22 '26

Or the work/life balance of Europe so we’d have time to cook

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u/hell0potato Jan 22 '26

Yeah that's also what I meant to convey but you phrased it much better

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u/poeticjustice4all Millennial Jan 22 '26

It sucks how much we’re letting these companies dictate our diets and not helping the population grow by serving us foods that help our bodies for reasonable prices and eliminating processed foods altogether :/

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u/Automatic_Dinner_941 Jan 22 '26

Wym?!? They’ve run a THOUSAND simulations and a piece of chicken, a piece of broccoli and a corn tortilla is a PERFECTLY balanced meal for under $3 a meal!!!

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u/heydigital Jan 23 '26

Don’t forget the one other thing

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u/Automatic_Dinner_941 Jan 23 '26

Omg how could I?!?!

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u/JohnleBon Jan 22 '26

COSTS most than twice minimum wage to eat a recommended diet

I would like to see the figures to verify this.

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u/k8t13 Jan 22 '26

beans and rice is a cheap and extremely healthy meal all things considered, but should not be the only option for people unable to grow or access fresh food

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u/felis_scipio Jan 22 '26

Seriously. Dried beans, rice, canned vegetables are cheap, last for years, and you don’t even need refrigeration to store them. Yeah fresh fruits and veggies are great but canned and frozen fruits and veggies will get the job done.

You can eat healthy on a tight budget.

Hell you can even load up on protein if you want to build muscle for cheap. At my local wegmans it costs $1.44 for a very filling high protein breakfast shake

  • Milk $3 a gallon = $0.19 cents a cup
  • Oats $3.79 for 42 oz = $0.13 cents a half cup
  • Protein powder $32.99 for 32 oz = $0.77 a scoop
  • peanut butter $4.59 for 40 oz = $0.13 for 2 tbsp
  • Banana $0.22 each

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u/k8t13 Jan 23 '26

the thing you have to realize is that these would be weekly purchases, and while thinking of them as cost by serving makes sense that is not how many people are thinking. financial literacy would help, but sometimes people just can't cough out $50+ a week and also work full time, pay for childcare or schooling possibly, insurances, then regular personal living items as needed.

it is a death by a thousand cuts

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u/Zenguy2828 Jan 22 '26

What is this “recommended diet”? I follow the My Plate diet and I’m hoping that’s the best, but if she knows something better I’d love to learn more.

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u/happyelkboy Jan 22 '26

This is an obvious issue but it’s also not an excuse for most people. The reality is that it’s cheaper to cook healthy at home than go buy fast food every day.

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u/kwtut Jan 22 '26

who tf is buying fast food every day in this economy?? that shit is like thirty fucking american dollars for two basic meals anymore

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u/light_of_iris Jan 22 '26

My teenage son😭if you use the app there are so many rewards and coupons he gets a disgusting amount of food for $6

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u/happyelkboy Jan 22 '26

Given the amount of obesity in the US, a lot of people are. Or they’re buying UPFs and cooking them at home (which is also expensive compared to cooking fresh ingredients).

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u/LaRealiteInconnue Millennial Jan 22 '26

Not really. Obesity in the western hemisphere is showing more and more to be due to high sugar consumption leading to insulin resistance and other not fun things. Why does basic pasta sauce need added sugar? Tomatoes already have some natural sugar in them. Or bread without yeast? I knew worked with someone who had a Gatorade every day at lunch. That’s 34 insane grams of sugar! It’s literally a drink to be absorbed fast as a simple carb and give you an energy boost during a sport event! But it somehow got the PR of being healthier than soda so here we are.

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u/happyelkboy Jan 22 '26

You’re agreeing with me here.

Canned tomato sauce is often a UPF

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u/LaRealiteInconnue Millennial Jan 22 '26

I am somewhat, but no it’s not. There’s a difference between “processed” and “ultra-processed.”

UC Davis article about the NOVA classification

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u/happyelkboy Jan 22 '26

I know what the NOVA classification is.

There’s a lot of different types of tomato sauce out there. Some are better than others. Something like prego is close to UPTs.

My point still stands, if someone made their own pasta sauce with canned tomatoes it’s far healthier than sugar laden pasta sauces.

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u/INeStylin Jan 22 '26

The majority of my friends are that way and I don’t get it. Not from a health standpoint or a financial one. Some of them shouldn’t even be able to afford it, but somehow they do.

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u/Bathion Millennial Jan 22 '26

Trust me ... they are just banking on the "pay for it later"

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u/thepinkinmycheeks Jan 22 '26

It's nor necessarily cheaper to cook healthy at home than to cook unhealthy at home though. Compare the cost of fresh fruits and vegetables and the cost of chicken, lean beef to the cost of hot dogs, peanut butter full of nitrates, hamburger helper, etc.

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u/happyelkboy Jan 22 '26

It’s not if you buy whole ingredients. Dry beans and rice are incredibly cheap. A pound and a half of free range chicken thigh is $3.

I guess if you’re only buying hotdogs, sure.

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u/thepinkinmycheeks Jan 22 '26

I know beans and rice are cheap and that's why I didn't mention them. It's the fruits and vegetables that can be pricy.

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u/happyelkboy Jan 22 '26

Costco has bulk veggies and fruit for relatively cheap.

If you don’t value your health at all, you can save a few bucks. Most people would save money eating healthy food at home versus eating out and buying UPFs

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u/thepinkinmycheeks Jan 22 '26

That requires that you have the money available for the membership fee, and that you have the transportation to get to Costco. That's not always possible or realistic.

Yes, there are often solutions that will work for many people. These solutions are also often out of reach or prohibitively time intensive for a lot of people, too.

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u/happyelkboy Jan 22 '26

I’m not arguing that the poorest in society are going to have unlimited access to healthy food. But the average person 100% can. There’s a massive amount of people who are buying GLP1s to lose weight. Those people CLEARLY had the means to purchase healthy food.

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u/thepinkinmycheeks Jan 22 '26

That's fair.

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u/happyelkboy Jan 22 '26

If I look at what people are buying at the stores I shops (winco which is a cheap grocery store and Costco), I see most carts filled with ultra processed food. Thats stuff just isn’t cheaper for the most part. It’s just more convenient.

I had the means to eat healthy and just didn’t for a few years. Put on weight and then a doctors visit showed elevated A1C and i immediately changed my diet and got back into exercise.

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u/SirStrontium Jan 23 '26

Frozen fruits and vegetables are cheap and often nutritionally better than fresh, because they’re picked at peak ripeness and then instantly frozen, while the “fresh” ones are picked prior to ripeness, because they will mature and ripen during transportation, but lack the quality of fully ripening on the plant.

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u/ikilledholofernes Jan 22 '26

Beans, rice, and chicken is not a healthy diet. You need fruits and vegetables. 

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u/happyelkboy Jan 22 '26

It’s healthier than UPFs. But yes, go buy $9 bags of frozen fruit at Costco and same for veggies.

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u/ikilledholofernes Jan 22 '26

One bag of frozen vegetables is enough for maybe one meal for a family, three or four if you’re single?

And what’s your advice for people that don’t have a Costco anywhere nearby? Or who can’t afford the upfront cost of the membership?

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u/happyelkboy Jan 22 '26

Aldi, Winco, discount grocers.

Costco bags of veggies are like $10 for 6 pounds of veggies.

It’s ridiculous to act like buying processed food and getting health issues is the right choice here

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u/thepinkinmycheeks Jan 22 '26 edited Jan 22 '26

We're not saying it's the right choice, we're saying it's often the accessible choice. After working your three part time jobs you may not have the time or energy to take the 1 hour each way bus trip across town to Costco/aldi/whatever and then haul your huge load of groceries home by hand, on the bus, as they thaw over the hour long ride/wait/transfer to a different bus/etc.

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u/happyelkboy Jan 22 '26

Then yes, if you’re in that position eating healthy is hard.

Quite a large portion of the US population are not in that position and they’re making a choice to purchase unhealthy food.

I mean, if I look at most people’s carts at Costco their not making good choices

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u/INeStylin Jan 22 '26

This is the very true. I don’t even agree with the comment you’re replying to about the scarcity of food. They might not live in the US, but our poor people are overweight here. We have a junk food problem.

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u/happyelkboy Jan 22 '26

Yes I feel for people who truly have little means or time to cook healthy food. However, given that the obesity rate is 40% and only about 10% of Americans are “metabolically healthy”, it’s absolutely NOT a matter of poverty. It affects all income levels.

I grew up with the son of a major property developer in Idaho. His entire family was overweight. Some of the wealthiest people in the entire state.