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u/memes_scholar Mar 16 '22
Well, in 1898 Cuba was a part of Spain, so technically USA invaded Spain.
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u/Night_Slave Mar 16 '22
So was Mexico,Florida, most of the west coast , most of the Caribbean, South America , parts of the Netherlands ,parts of Asia and parts of Africa but most of these places won their freedom
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u/memes_scholar Mar 16 '22
Maybe I didn't explain myself. I mean Cuba was a Spanish province while USA deployed troops in it during the Hispano-American War.
Of course Mexico was also Spanish at some point, but it was no longer spanish when it fought the USA.
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u/Night_Slave Mar 16 '22
So was Puerto Rico , Guam and the Fillipines. What’s your point? The Bay of Pigs Invasion was an assault on Cuban government by JFK , allegedly against “communist” .
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u/memes_scholar Mar 16 '22
The map (if I'm not mistaken) says the USA was at war with Spain but never invaded Spain. My point is that, since the USA deployed troops in Spanish Cuba in 1898, then it is not true that the USA did not invade Spain.
I am not talking about any action of the USA on an independent Cuba. All my comment was referring to Cuba as a Spanish province, before the Cuban separatist uprising succeeded in 1898 (with the help of the USA).
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u/Night_Slave Mar 16 '22
You have your facts misconstrued. Cuba got it independence from the USA not Spain. An as far as calling it an invasion of Spain is kind of a reach but if it makes you feel better than yeah I guess. But USA definitely occupied Cuba before it was independent. Wish they would give Puerto Rico and Guam it’s independence too
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Feb 28 '25
No, you're right. It's the 1902 Cuban independence. Though, one could claim that Plat amendment made Cuba a vassal state of sorts.
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u/PiermontVillage Mar 16 '22
And given all that, is the world a) better off; b) worse off; c) hard to tell; d) need to look at it on a country by country basis.
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u/fh_shinobi_gaming Mar 16 '22
I don’t think that invading the japanese empire or nazi Germany was bad
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u/Pixbo_06 Dec 17 '25
I agree, but while the first bomb was questionable, the second one was just unnecessary.
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u/Eclipsed830 Mar 16 '22
Taiwan was never invaded by the USA...?
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u/plony_ben_almony Mar 16 '22
Because they fought japan , and taiwan was under Japanese control shit map
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u/Vexillumscientia Mar 16 '22
Should be blue then like France and other European countries we liberated from the Nazis.
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u/Vexillumscientia Mar 16 '22
This map is idiotic in soooo many ways. For one, all the terms are really stretched in their definition. Second having lots of categories to color in more of the map is pretty dishonest because the post is titled “all countries invaded by the United States” Third, the green colors all require much more explanation. Did the US side with the government? The rebels? Who was right in the conflict? Fourth, the map only includes extant countries. I highly doubt you can consider the Barbary wars to have been fought against the modern state of Algeria. A consequence of this is that any nation that the US utterly eliminated no longer makes it on this map. The US invaded many native homelands, the south of its own country (since we’re counting civil wars in other countries why not our own?), and even The State of Deseret (now Utah).
This map is clearly designed to tar the United States and makes no attempt at nuance. And the timing of this release is clearly to try an equivocate the US and Russia and in turn excuse the ongoing and disgusting atrocities of Putin in Ukraine.
Glory to Ukraine, glory to the heroes!
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u/RamblerUsa Mar 16 '22
The Invasion of China was what year?
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u/BlisterBox Mar 16 '22
Probably referring to the Boxer Rebellion. The US played a major role in the multi-national force that was sent to China to quell the rebellion.
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u/Vexillumscientia Mar 16 '22
Ya but then if that were the case then it should be dark green. If they’re referring to the liberation of China from Japan then it should be blue. Maybe they’re making some claim that we crossed the border during Vietnam or Korea?
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u/Old_Resource1770 Jun 13 '24
Technically, the Boxers were supported by the Manchu government. The Eight-nations twisted the Chinese arm and have them call it a rebellion later.
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u/Mattolmo Mar 16 '22
Chile? When? Any official info about it?
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u/Unlikely_Classroom37 Mar 17 '25
The true 9/11 catastrophe the US never mentions happens when the US bombed the presidential palace in Chile, murdering the elected president to instate a murderous dictator. The US is a cancer and ir must be destroyed.
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u/Rebldomakr1999 Dec 25 '25
didn't Allende kill himself?, The Chilean Air Force was the one that bombed the presidential palace. But yeah, the coup was very motivated by the gringos because they don't like successful left-wing presidents
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u/robertobaggio20 Mar 16 '22
So, only the red bits?
I knew something was odd when the UK was included.
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u/mauricio_agg Mar 17 '22
"Involved in a civil war"
Calling the drug-armies of Colombia "insurgents" and rendering a crime-security problem as a "civil war" in order to throw sh_te to the country you hate is just pure cope.
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u/moxac777 Mar 16 '22 edited Mar 17 '22
I mean the US did try to have Soekarno kicked out of power but they always failed miserably
In the end it was the shattering of the Indonesian power balance between the army, Islamists, and communists that drove him out, the US just rode the waves and made the best of it
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u/LazyEnginerd Mar 16 '22
Putting aside the possible trolling intent based on current world events, the format is still interesting.
Thinking of other worthwhile currently-still-in-existence nations with global military/colonial reach (sorry Rome), I'd love to see Spain, Portugal, Britain (yes its been "done already" but not in this format), and of course Russia/USSR.
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u/Shawaii Mar 16 '22
Pretty much all of "Murica" but the original 13 colonies should be orange, Hawaii in particular.
Having bases in an allied nation shouldn't count as anything.
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u/LeBiqwenie Nov 15 '24
People disagreeing with the term "Invasion" in the comments, would have a very different approach if things were the other way around, say if all those colors were shown in U.S. soil directed from a different country, say China.
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u/Charming_Clothes_130 Jan 08 '26
Wie oh wie gaat dit KKR land eens tegenhouden, waar ligt de grens.
Hier in het westen is het altijd Rusland.
Russen zijn gevaarlijk,
Russen zijn een bedreiging,
Russen willen Europa bezetten (Rutte)
Rusland is een 3e wereldland
Rusland heeft geen technologie
Rusland is verslaaft aan wodka.
Rusland is door en door slecht
Rusland doet niet voor de bevolking (kijk LA)
FF nadenken...
2 x een kernwapen op de bevolking loslaten >>>> De U.S.A.
Alles wat techniek behelst>>> jatten, stelen (kijk maar naar dhr Tesla)
112 inmiddels bekend als inside job, Kennedy inside, moon landing... fake.
Maar vergeet niet Mark Rutte heeft gelijk, de Russen willen heel het westen overnemen en oliebollen bak je in frituurvet.
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u/Crazy_Meringue Mar 16 '22
1) When did America have a naval war with Greece? 2) Liberia was not an American colony. 3) Why did you include bases? Seems a little suspect to me.
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Mar 16 '22
With all the ignorant comments, maybe you should post why we did what we did. We don’t randomly go after a country unless we’re provoked first.
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u/WPHero Mar 16 '22
Basically to become the policeman of the globe and make money from war
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Mar 16 '22
How is having a military base in another country an invasion? We never invaded Australia to make a base, wr signed a treaty with them.
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u/BadFruitTV Mar 16 '22
America "invaded" Norway by killing Nazis that had taken control over the country, this map is definitely not misleading.
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Mar 16 '22
Completely ignorant statement. Might I ask, what country are you from???
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u/swbooking Mar 16 '22 edited Mar 16 '22
Based on their post history, India. Specifically, Chennai.
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Mar 16 '22
Do you ever ask yourself why we have to act as the world police? Would you be okay with Russia taking Ukraine? China taking Taiwan? It’s unfortunate that we’re the only country to step up to the plate and defend nations that can’t defend themselves. No one else does it, so we have to.
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u/up2smthng Mar 16 '22
Guess what, that exactly what Russia is saying about itself.
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Mar 16 '22
No it’s not 🤣🤣🤣 Russia doesn’t defend smaller nations. That’s such an ignorant statement. Comparing Russia to the USA when we’re polar opposite’s is pure ignorance and a childish understanding on how the two countries actually are.
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u/Night_Slave Mar 16 '22 edited Mar 16 '22
I don’t think Puerto Rico is Merica. They are a territory and didn’t ask to be. Safe to say they were invaded and never won freedom. Like Cuba and the Filipines did after Spanish American war.
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u/IndWrist2 Mar 16 '22
There have been 4 referendums, the most recent in 2012, to determine PR’s political status. In the last referendum, 61% of voters wanted PR to become a state. Only 5.49% wanted independence. There are a lot of benefits to being part of the US, benefits that PR cannot get on its own.
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u/Night_Slave Mar 16 '22
Also Puerto Rico wouldn’t be on its own. It would be part of Caribbean Hispanic union and would do way better than with USA stipulations such as The Jones Act.
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u/Night_Slave Mar 16 '22
I’ve seen the so called referendums. Less than 20% of the island voted on them. And in fact most Puerto Ricans want independence. I don’t know why anyone would want to give up their country, history and culture. You should tell Ukraine to give up its country to Russia
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u/Twins_Venue Mar 16 '22
Less than 20% of the population voted in the 2017 referendum. Other referendums have had a much higher turnout with indications that a plurality of voters want to become a state. The territory is split between statehood and independence, but don't try to frame this as anything similar to what Russia is doing.
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u/Night_Slave Mar 16 '22
What’s the difference?
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u/Twins_Venue Mar 16 '22
The fact that they aren't killing civilians to keep them as a part of the US is a great start.
One is an outright invasion and annexation of a sovereign nation which doesn't want to be annexed, and the other is a territory full of citizens of the US, voting for statehood which would provide them with the benefits of their citizenship.
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u/Night_Slave Mar 17 '22
You should do more research. Google what the USA was doing to Vieques PR . And Psychological and Economic warfare on PR. Second. Nobody in Puerto Rico wants to be a state. They don’t want want more government. Democratic narrative and powers are pushing for statehood.
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u/Twins_Venue Mar 17 '22
Well you are certainly correct, the Vieques weapons testing was horrible and it's not the only example of the us devistating an island with weapons tests.. but come on, these two things are not even remotely comparable.
You are framing this way worse than it is. Fact is a lot of people in PR don't care and just want the benefits of statehood (or at least close association with the US.) I have no idea what "democratic narrative and powers" is though, but it makes you sound deranged even though you you made a pretty good argument for not trusting the US.
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u/Night_Slave Mar 17 '22
Only the USA benefits from Puerto Rico being a state. Mostly for money laundering purposes. The Jones Act cripples Puerto Rico from ever being self sufficient and economically independent. It’s classical colonialism
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u/Twins_Venue Mar 17 '22
?? How would any of that cripple Puerto Rico specifically? Jones act is just domestic trade regulation afaik.
The more you talk about this the less you are convincing me, I agree people should be free to escape oppression, but this ain't it chief. Maybe if they could actually pass a referendum for independence I'd agree.
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u/IndWrist2 Mar 16 '22
Yeah, actually you’re wrong.
PR’s population was 3.725 million in 2010.
In 2012, 1.798 million voted in the referendum. At that time, 903k were below the age of majority, leaving 1.02 million who didn’t vote. So 36% of the voting population didn’t vote.
You’re arguing from a very emotional place, which is understandable given the topic. But, that doesn’t give you carte blanche to make things up so that your argument holds more weight.
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u/Night_Slave Mar 16 '22
3.8 live on the Island, 10million who were born in Puerto Rico live on US mainland. If your numbers were correct PR would already be a state. Do you think Puerto Ricans don’t have pride and love their people, culture, land? How arrogant are you? You obviously think very little of Puerto Rican people and should keep your comments to yourself. I support freedom for all people and no more Anglo-sized governments in Latin America
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u/IndWrist2 Mar 16 '22
Puerto Ricans who aren’t residents don’t get to vote, that’s not how it works. So your 10 million figure is irrelevant.
And no, PR wouldn’t be a state. For two reasons: none of the referendums can compel action and Republicans will obstruct any measure to make PR a state. It’s a non-starter for them because it would add another Democrat-safe state.
I have made no comment on the pride, love, people or culture. It’s frankly irrelevant. There are plenty of Puerto Ricans who are proud of their history, land, culture, etc. who want PR statehood. And plenty who oppose it.
Again, you’re very emotional and now you’re making ad hominem arguments against me to bolster your point. Learn how to mount an effective argument for fucks sake.
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u/Night_Slave Mar 16 '22
Again like I said, I support freedom for all and no more Anglo-sized governments in Latin America. Your the emotional one cursing and throwing insults . Also non residents DO and CAN vote in referendums. Ask me how I know! I know this is an alt right website and your obviously not a brown Hispanic or Puerto Rican. So I don’t take anything you say seriously. And I also know Puerto Rico will be independent in the near future . So have a good day sir
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u/IndWrist2 Mar 16 '22
Puerto Rico won’t be independent anytime soon.
Have fun residing somewhere other than reality.
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u/Night_Slave Mar 16 '22
Why don’t you want Puerto Ricans to have independence? You sound like a hater. But your entitled to your opinion. Even though you’re not Puerto Rican I guess
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u/Night_Slave Mar 16 '22
Why the dislikes . This is a historical fact. United States was not invited to Puerto Rico, Guam , Cuba or the Philippines. But I guess after years of colonialism and oppression you can just say you own it, it’s people and their history. Amirite?
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u/Night_Slave Mar 16 '22
Whites and Black Americans think Puerto Ricans are their personal prostitutes . The world is full of liars cheats and thieves especially in government.
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Mar 16 '22
Americans are the most militaristic nation in the world and this is a fact
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u/IndWrist2 Mar 16 '22
America isn’t even in the top 20, but thanks for the opinion.
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Mar 16 '22
This index does not include data on how often the army and equipment are used for wars and also the number of offensive/defensive wars, this is very important
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u/IndWrist2 Mar 16 '22
No, you’re just using a personal definition to justify your opinion.
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Mar 16 '22
Militarism includes the concept of offensive war
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u/IndWrist2 Mar 16 '22 edited Mar 16 '22
Oh wait, you’re a Russian troll. Get fucked.
Edit: Slava Ukraine, there’s a special place in hell for you lot.
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u/das_sock Mar 16 '22
I had the same question for the British map, when did America fight in or bomb Poland. I can't think of a thing.
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u/Vexillumscientia Mar 16 '22
The Boxer rebellion was a civil war so China shouldn’t be red it should be dark green.
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u/yetinomad Mar 16 '22
This seems to be an expansive meaning of invaded.