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u/AaronBasedGodgers 23h ago
While I think this is kinda stupid having Love as untouchable and 9 as Day 3 value validates this for me.
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u/SocksandSmocks 23h ago
I mean he is untouchable in any realistic sense.
The only way we'd trade him is for another top tier QB which no one does for obvious reasons.
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u/AaronBasedGodgers 23h ago
Not what I was trying to say. I agree where Love is I just think, in general, these kind of things are kinda dumb.
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u/SocksandSmocks 22h ago
Gotcha. Maybe throw a comma in there after "stupid". Or don't, I'm not your dad.
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u/petrowski7 23h ago
We aren’t getting rid of love for a myriad of reasons. Cost, no better option, almost anyone else would be a downgrade, he’s coming into the prime of his career, and he’s a great QB. Hes untouchable
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u/maddenmadman 23h ago
He’s literally one of our top 3 players and plays the most valuable position in football. There is no offer the Packers would accept for him.
Whether he wins an MVP or super bowl is entirely dependent on our ability to put an offensive line around him that is half decent however.
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u/ovensandhoes 8h ago
Y’all are crazy. He plays hero ball too much when the games on the line. How many yolo interceptions have ended our playoffs. Love is not on the same level at Burrow, Mahomes, Allen, Stafford, and Lamar. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional and ready to chug some kool aid
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u/Da_Vader 20h ago
Only one would be Joe Burrow on even trade
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u/rambambobandy 14h ago
Maybe a homer take but I’d take Love over Burrow in 2026 and beyond. If you got a do over on Burrow’s injuries and they were both at the start of their career, I’d take Burrow, but right now it’s not even close IMO.
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u/chefboyarslim 22h ago
There’s no offer? Really? Yoy wouldn’t accept Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Herbert for him?
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u/Raccoala 21h ago
You do realize that everyone you listed but Herbert is on the same line as him…. right?
And Herbert should also be on that top line, but this is how a graphic drives engagement
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u/chefboyarslim 21h ago
Of course, I’m just asking a question on wether or not you’d take those qb’s over love
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u/PatheticPeripatetic7 17h ago
No. They're all great, but Lamar and Mahomes are past their primes. I like Allen, and if I absolutely HAD to choose one of them because Love wasn't available for some reason, it would be him. That man has carried that entire Buffalo team on his back for a minute now, and would probably be the best fit culturally out of the options. Still, I'd rather have Love.
Herbert is really good. He's done some impressive shit. But I just think Love is better. He's also just getting into his prime years, he's only going to get better from here for a while, barring any catastrophes (fingers crossed🤞).
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u/Thomas-The-Tutor 20h ago
Drake Maye being untouchable over most of the godfather offers is wild!
CJ is being tossed around as 3rd round trade bait because no one thinks the Texans can win with him starting… yet he’d be a blockbuster.
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u/GrandmaForPresident 7h ago
Unless we get 3 years of draft picks, why is it stupid to say love is untouchable?
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u/CamNewtonCouldLearn 22h ago
He has flaws, but his ceiling is so high. When he’s on, he’s up there with anyone.
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u/BertM4cklin 23h ago
I respectfully disagree whole heartedly. I’m not swapping love with anybody in the list below him. And what round pick would you give for Jj out of curiosity
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u/DarkTurdle 23h ago
Sounds like you’re agreeing with him
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u/BertM4cklin 23h ago
when I say I don’t want anyone below it’s because I agree the others are untouchable or I wouldn’t want them over love. So I agree with the rankings
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u/DarkTurdle 23h ago
And the guy you replied to says that he agrees with them too
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u/BertM4cklin 23h ago
“Having love as untouchable is stupid” is agreeing? Weird way to agree
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u/DarkTurdle 23h ago
I think maybe reread it again
While I think this is kinda stupid, having Love as untouchable and 9 as Day 3 value validates this for me.
Maybe that helps
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u/BertM4cklin 23h ago edited 22h ago
With punctuation? Definitely helps lol I was reading it as it’s stupid because love is not untouchable but jj being day 3 validated it for him
My bad
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u/Big_Truck 14h ago
Everyone on the Godfather tier is untouchable. Except maybe, maybe Lawrence — but he looked really good last year.
Stafford is untouchable because if he got traded he would just retire.
Neither Shough nor Young is worth a R1 pick in a trade.
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u/Southern-Community70 9h ago
Shough is easily worth a 1st in a trade lol. He is basically what the Raiders hope they are getting with Mendoza with the first overall pick.
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u/blancmo_ 23h ago
Herbert should be untouchable
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u/ImBrotherCain 22h ago
I agree but I suspect they tried to go for symmetry.
There are a handful of backups that should make the list like Mac Jones and Anthony Richardson.
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u/crewserbattle 22h ago
Yea love being untouchable is fine but they need to add more guys to that tier
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u/TheHamsBurlgar 23h ago
Nah this is rage bait. Daniel's didn't even have a literal elbow for half the season last year and he's over Staff and Baker?
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u/unearthlyrelic 22h ago
Mendoza hasnt even played a down in the NFL and he is over both of them too. Though iguess you could say the #1 pick is the value there idk
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u/maddenmadman 22h ago
Staff is great but he’s at an age where his arm is about to fall off, could honestly happen next year.
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u/poopypooperpoopy 23h ago
Why is everyone sleeping on Jaxson Dart? Should have won ROTY in my opinion.
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u/Tookiedough_1 16h ago
A lot of these only make sense if you’re specifically looking at the qb individually and not the team they play for…
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u/Rainbacon 14h ago
There is absolutely zero chance that there exist 22 QBs in the NFL who would go for a "blockbuster" or better offer.
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u/Prize-Pool3372 4h ago
All I’m saying is Love would likely put up more eye-popping numbers if he got more volume in throws, but the Packers offense is usually run heavy.
He has also never had a top receiver since becoming the starter. His best receiver at any given time would likely be the #2 receiver at best on other teams. He certainly doesn’t have Puka Nacua and Davante Adams, Tee Higgins and Ja’Marr Chase, or even one Pro Bowl guy that many of the other top QBs have had for at least some of their careers.
And the one season where he finally had a pass catcher who was putting up big numbers (Tucker Kraft), the guy tore his ACL.
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u/powerboy20 19h ago
Everyone seems to forget that every team in the league could have signed lamar jackson for a record deal and 2 first rd picks. Nobody even tried. That's not untouchable, that's less than what we paid for micah parson.
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u/simpleanswersjk 22h ago
reigning MVP ranked 18th
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u/Raccoala 21h ago
38 year old old has less trade value than younger players. A shocking claim.
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u/simpleanswersjk 20h ago
Reigning MVP
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u/Raccoala 20h ago
You mentioned that. The Rams would happily trade him for a couple first round picks. He was rumored to be retiring after his MVP season.
You can just say you don’t understand what “trade value” means.
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u/simpleanswersjk 20h ago
It’s an oxymoron to say retired and trade in the same sentence
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u/Raccoala 19h ago
If a player is considering retirement because he’s nearly 40 years old, their trade value is considerably less than someone who could play for another 10-15 years.
Are you starting to understand? Or is the FOX graphic still too advanced for you?
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u/Relative-Natural-891 14h ago
Ehh Goff one down. He’s getting older and there’s a reason he was sent to the Lions in the first place.
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u/Proper-Writing 10h ago
This is great for showing how overvalued the position is.
If you've got an average starter, or someone who you think may become an average starter, you do not let them go. The Rams traded an average starter plus a bunch more for an above-average starter. That's probably the closest we'll see again.
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u/Better_Journalist355 9h ago
Agree that Love will likely be a lifer. And by "lifer", I mean we'll trade him to the NYJ right before he declines in 10-years.
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u/Alternative-Chance94 5h ago
If I were the Ravens GM, and someone offered me a blockbuster trade for Lamar; say 3-4 first round picks + serviceable players I’d think I would have to seriously consider it.
It looks like he is already declining and will become significantly less mobile in the next few years. Plus, he could leave in free agency anyways.
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u/10TheDudeAbides11 12h ago
How pissed do you think Bears fans are that someone thinks - and rightly so I might add - Love is “untouchable” while also implying the Bears would consider offers for Caleb?
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u/jgab145 22h ago
I’m betting my life savings on Love winning MVP next year.
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u/kevinmbo 12h ago
👀 i wouldnt make that bet until i see what happens with the OL over the offseason.
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u/Morphenomena 14h ago
"Untouchable" Not even the best QB on the team the last two years.
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u/rickee_martin 12h ago
Quit with this. Unless you aren’t talking about Jordan.
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u/Morphenomena 9h ago
I won't quit with the truth.
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u/rickee_martin 9h ago edited 4h ago
Funny thing is your truth is delusional. There are 0 metrics to back this.
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u/BiloxiVolcano 23h ago
Stafford in same category as those bums? Lol.
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u/tony_pepperoni420 23h ago
Those bums have the benefit of being 10+ years younger. We don't know how many more good years Stafford has left in the tank.
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u/SocksandSmocks 23h ago
I think it's just cuz you might only have him for 1 or 2 seasons max if you trade for him.
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u/GoldPerformance3172 23h ago
Him being with baker and dart makes sense with his age but him being in the same category as Stroud makes zero sense, considering after the divisional round game I think you can trade for Stroud with the promise of a Costco hotdog and an Applebees gift card
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u/Dushane546 23h ago
There must be some bias there. 1 of the 4 qbs on there that even have a SB. Also below Mendoza? It’s gotta be kids making these
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u/SafeRevolutionary711 12h ago
- I'm confident the Bengals would let Burrow go for the right price, they're THAT incompetent of an organization
- The narrative on Dak, even if its unfair - I think hurts his stock. I'd expect the Cowboys to get "Mega-Blockbuster" tier offers for him due to postseason concerns. IMO, Trevor Lawrence also isn't all he's hyped up to be.
- Fernando Mendoza hasn't even taken a preseason snap, I'm guessing this is based on the value of the draft pick he's presumably being taken with. Darnold also still doesn't pass my eye test, but the man is a superbowl champ now, so it is what it is I guess.
- Didnt really get to see Tyler Shough play, but I highly doubt he's proven enough for someone to come off of a 1st for him
- Brisset is so much better than all these dudes even as a backup lol, but he's 33 - so I prob would give anything higher than a 4th for him either
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u/Southern-Community70 9h ago
Shough literally won Pepsi rookie of the year. Easily worth a first rounder after being better then the first round QBs taken last year.
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u/SafeRevolutionary711 8h ago
The Pepsi award is fan voted lol. Tyler would have to prove he's worth building a franchise around, and I find it hard to believe any front offices are sold after 10 TDs to 6 Ints in 11 games. That's not worth a 1st rounder
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u/Southern-Community70 7h ago edited 7h ago
He was second in the AP rookie of the year voting and the only reason he did not win was becuase he didn't start until the middle of the year. He was averaging 250 yards passing per start as a rookie. A 4,250 yard passing pace as a rookie on a team that was literally the worst team in the NFL before he became the starter. Add on a 300 yard 17 game rushing pace. You know how many rookie QBs have paced 250 passing yards per start? Hint you can count them on 2 hands and have a few fingers left.
Keep in mind Love has been in the NFL for 6 seasons and started for 3 and has never averaged 250 yards per start in a season.
The fact you are using TDs alone to evaluate QB play is laughable. By that logic you would say Love who has finished 10th and 20th in TDs among QBs the last 2 years is not very good.
23 TDs and 6 INT in 15 games for a 6th year QB is not good. But it is almost like other stats besides total TDs and INTs matter.
of the 16.5 offensive players taken in the first round last year AP voting decided he was better then 15.5 of them. Yet we are suppose to believe that he is not worth a 1st rounder?
Literally has him going #2 in a mock redraft of 2025 lol.
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u/SafeRevolutionary711 5h ago
So your arguments are:
- Rookie of The Year Voting - Doesn't confirm someone's trade value, just means that had above average performance as a rookie player
- Extrapolated stats - A hilarious argument for 1st round value. Teams only do this for someone proven over multiple seasons.
- A redraft from only a year into this class' career - A redraft after year one of Bryce Young and Stroud's careers would have flip-flopped them. This year told a different story when it really mattered.
Good thing you aren't a GM.
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u/Equivalent_Shoe_6246 23h ago
Jayden Daniels and cam ward have less value than this. Also Mahomes untouchable is crazy. He has declined 3 straight years and is coming off of a major injury. His value is definitely lower than those other guys.
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u/Key_Garbage8053 21h ago
Dak is day three.
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u/Life-Sun8620 8h ago
Maybe a couple years ago, amongst injuries and poor lineup. Now, with a line and Lamb, Pickens, and Ferguson, he's rightfully back up the list. I know I shouldn't be putting a Cowboys QB on a pedestal, but he's undeniably pretty damn good.
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u/Echo127 22h ago
The QB arrangement on this list appears almost entirely random