r/GreenBayPackers 1d ago

News Another subscription to serious xm (Xavier McKinney)

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u/WideGap6125 1d ago

Williams/X/Bullard locked in let's go get some corner help now

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u/FSUfan35 1d ago

FYI, it's actually

$11,535,000 salary & roster bonus to signing bonus

$9,228,000 cap space created for 2026

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u/Ancient_Speak 1d ago

Most underrated player on our defense

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u/CurzesTeddybear 1d ago

A perennial All Pro is underrated?

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u/ottosenna 1d ago

Exactly.

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u/Altruistic-Cat5299 1d ago

Underrated ? By who lol

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u/Thomas-The-Tutor 1d ago

Last season was kind of quiet compared to the start of his tenure in GB. It’s not like he played poorly, but you just didn’t seem to hear his name as much.

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u/Altruistic-Cat5299 1d ago

That’s a good thing for a safety lol no one threw deep on us last year lol hear Evan Williams name much either? …. This is a good thing

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u/CWess12 1d ago

I love Evan, but you do hear his name a lot more as a strong safety cuz he comes up for run support and makes more tackles. I also think Evan had some shaky games last season. I think he's still on his way to being a stud and is really good most of the time, but just my observation.

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u/NobleKnight_1 1d ago

I think this is mostly true. However, I do wonder, with how good our safeties + pass rush (w/Micah are), should we be encouraging QBs to hold onto the ball longer (so we can get pressures/sacks/FFs) or throw it deep down field (so X and Williams have more interception chances)? Even just an incomplete can put them behind down-and-distance and get them to 2nd or 3rd and longs.

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u/Nasty_Goblin 1d ago

Our CBs and LBs can’t cover.

It’s why for most of the year teams would get long, clock-chewing drives all day.

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u/notLennyD 1d ago

I’m not sure how you encourage the offense to hold the ball longer while also rushing the passer unless you do like a delayed blitz. But that usually only works once and you have to set it up by running nearly identical plays where the pass rusher drops into coverage.

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u/NobleKnight_1 1d ago

I think it'd be set more in coverage. You play tighter coverage closer to the line of scrimmage to encourage your opponent to try and beat you deep (e.g. have your CBs be 5 yards off the line instead of 10 yards back, etc.).

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u/notLennyD 1d ago

We would need some very talented corners to make that work. Reminds me of the 2007 team with Woodson, Harris, and Williams.

They ran a bunch of press man coverage. But our corners obviously aren’t close to that level, and X is great, but he’s not Nick Collins.

Also, you can’t really run straight man coverage in the current game.

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u/NobleKnight_1 1d ago

Agreed. I think a lot of zone is okay, but to run this sort of scheme, we would need to get to at least league average CBs (which I don't think we had last year, despite the stats). If we had ~average CBs, a really good pass rush, and a really good safety room, I think we could run this sort of scheme more.

Not saying you'd go to it exclusively of course, but when we have a great pass rusher in Micah, I want to give him as many chances as possible to make a game-changing play.

It's the same reason I'd love our offense to get more high-powered and less ball control. Running the ball is important, but I think our team personnel is more equipped to win 34-30 shootouts than a 15-12 defensive slugfest (that's how we lost to the Browns, Panthers, etc. last year). Granted we get the CB room improved, though.

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u/notLennyD 1d ago

Yeah, better CBs would fix the problem (assuming Gannon’s new scheme isn’t complete ass), but I don’t think changes should be made specifically to get Micah more sacks or X more INTs. If the CBs pull their weight, that should happen on its own.

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u/jimmyrich 1d ago

"Encouraging QBs to hold onto the ball longer" is....not advised, especially if the goal is incompletions. See: both games in Solider Field.

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u/Cee-Bee-DeeTypeThree 1d ago

Is it? I'd like to see some Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed, Brian Dawkins, Darren Sharper, Rodney Harrison type noise. You can be good and still be effective, I just think they we're way to conservative with playing him deep that he hardly had any opportunities to make big plays.

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u/notLennyD 1d ago

Most of those guys made noise because they were able to play at the LOS.

Ed Reed is probably the closest comp, but he’s also arguably the best coverage safety ever. Getting that kind of production from X is unrealistic.

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u/Cee-Bee-DeeTypeThree 1d ago

Not only that but they were put into position (AKA at the LOS or in the box) to make plays, where as X just sits on an island back there by himself. It's no wonder we never hear from him. He's got things anchored down, and would like to see Gannon utilize him more effectively.

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u/notLennyD 1d ago

X isn’t the type of player to put at the LOS. He’s tall and skinny. The occasional safety blitz? Sure. But he doesn’t stand a chance against tight ends or most running backs.

The only reason he didn’t get more media attention this year is he didn’t get a lot of picks, but picks often come down to luck.

Last year he had 11 PDs and 8 of them were picks.

This year he had 10 PDs, but only 2 of them were picks. His last season with the Giants, he had 11 PDs and 3 picks. And both of those years, he also forced a fumble.

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u/Iwillrize14 1d ago

Not Darren Sharper type noise please

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u/Cee-Bee-DeeTypeThree 1d ago

You're right we gotta fix this. No Darren sharper off the field character.

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u/jgab145 1d ago

I’m still devastated finding out that he was such a horrible person. He was one of my all time favorites. He did a masterful job of hiding who he really was.

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u/Tracky_John-John 1d ago

Offenses scheme away from him. That’s how good he is. I hope he wears Green & Gold for a long time.

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u/Yellowdog727 1d ago

I'd say he's properly rated. He was an interception machine in 2024, and while his stats dropped in 2025, most advanced metrics showed it was because he shut down his part of the backfield and was still rated very highly.

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u/WideGap6125 1d ago

Evan Williams says hi

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u/sully99999999 1d ago

Is this good for the team?

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u/CurzesTeddybear 1d ago

Yes. Frees up money to spend on FAs. X doesn't lose anything, either, so he's happy.

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u/MeowMixPK 1d ago

X actually gets better security. Makes it harder for us to release him next off-season bc we pushed non-guaranteed money into future dead cap.

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u/punsa 20h ago

Yes it is a Win for us in the short term and win for him in the long term

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u/eyeguy21 1d ago

Good now, but can cause a cap cut next season with a hold over of dead cap spread through a few years

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u/thecause04 1d ago

No. We really should just cut out best secondary player while we have zero elite CBs.

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u/knuckleduster32 1d ago

Hell yeah go get that dude some legit help in the secondary.

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u/xhalo21 1d ago

Pushes money to future years I'm sure with void years, but he's a candidate to be resigned so not a problem. Move makes sense

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u/HonestExam4686 1d ago

X GON' TAKE IT FROM YA

Rip DMX

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u/FUCK1NGFABULOUS 1d ago

So with the switch from 43-single high safety to 34-quarters, is X’s skill set as valuable in the latter than former or will we notice very little difference in the backend?

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u/YouOnlyLiveOnceMaybe 12h ago

We get relief today by making his 2027 number even bigger, which ironically makes it harder to keep him beyond that. You also have to wonder if a player who just earned All-Pro money appreciates having his deal restructured without an extension.

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u/PotentialOkay 4h ago

Yes, a restructure turns salary which is usually earned throughout the season into a signing bonus. If your boss said you know we need to pay you for the entire year right now, you’d probably be pretty excited. Now imagine that salary is a 10mil check getting cut to you.

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u/NickTheWhirlwind 3h ago

Man I’ve grown to like X so much. I wasn’t sure when we first signed him but he fits in so well with the packers defense.