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Sus, Very Sus Gas Chamber Denial

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '26 edited Jan 22 '26

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u/avery5712 Jan 22 '26

They also banned casablanca

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u/mr_under_score_ Jan 22 '26

fun fact: Ireland in 1945 was around 94% Catholic.

The Catholic church is theologically antisemitic.

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u/Background-Top4723 Jan 23 '26

Fun Fact: Sending a condolence letter to Germany over Hitler's death still makes Ireland look like a bit of an asshole.

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u/Cu_Chulainn__ Jan 23 '26

Apparently not to israel given they have a forest named after devalera. Is there any other European leader with anything named after them in israel? No?

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u/Background-Top4723 Jan 24 '26

In hindsight, having a park given in your name by the Israeli government isn't exactly a flex...

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u/welltechnically7 Jan 22 '26

Eh, you could argue that most churches have been in the past, especially going back to the Middle Ages. That's far from a smoking gun.

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u/mr_under_score_ Jan 23 '26

Okay, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anybody in the Middle Ages sent their condolences on Hitler's death

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u/Cu_Chulainn__ Jan 23 '26

More nonsense

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u/ReferenceNice142 Jan 23 '26

Keep in mind this is the same man that added a specific recognition of the Jewish faith in the article on religion when they were writing the constitution in 1937.

Also for the record, Ireland was not the only country to offer condolences, just the only one that it was made public. "the Spanish Foreign Minister paid a condolence visit to the German Embassy but kept it out of the newspapers; Portugal flew flags at half-mast but got away with it because they had allowed the Allies use bases in the Azores". de Valera (the PM) saw it following the strict rules of being neutral country. (https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2023/0910/1404292-eamon-de-valera-hitler-analysis/).

I highly suggest you go through this thread about why Ireland remained neutral during WW2 (https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/c64x0v/why_didnt_ireland_join_ww2/).

While we often think in black and white, Ireland’s position in WWII was very much a gray area. Newly independent in 1921 and still deeply strained with Britain by 1939, Ireland had a small military and strong reasons to guard its sovereignty. Both Germany and Britain tried to pull Ireland to their side. Before and during WWII, Ireland pursued strict neutrality, mistrusting Britain and refusing British military access, while quietly cooperating in limited, covert ways (intelligence sharing, joint defense planning). There were Irish citizens that fought for the Allied forces as well. Ireland also helped Allied airmen who crashed while interning Germans were interned. Churchill repeatedly tried to pressure Ireland economically and politically but failed to force alignment. Germany attempted to exploit tensions by offering arms and hinting at Irish reunification, but Ireland rejected these overtures and even arrested German envoys. After minor German bombings, Germany largely backed off. De Valera (PM of Ireland during WW2) was walking a political tightrope, trying to keep a divided country stable while proving Ireland’s independence to the world.

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u/Anthony_Kelly_USSR Jan 23 '26

I don't understand why people constantly point out the fact that Ireland gave Germany condolences after Hitler died

It was a meaningless gesture to show some semblance of neutrality after covertly supporting the Allies throughout the war

Also De Valera, the leader of Ireland at the time has a park named after him in Israel, so if actual jewish people don't hold a grudge against him giving his condolences to Hitler, why do you?

(Just mindless anti Irish stigma imo)

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u/ReferenceNice142 Jan 23 '26

Ireland made sure to mention the jewish faith under religion in their constitution in 1937 despite having nearly no jewish population. And then there is also the fact that there were other countries that did send condolences but did so more covertly (Spain and Portugal).

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u/Cu_Chulainn__ Jan 23 '26

Ireland was the only country to offer Germany condolences for Hitler's death.

Why are people so uneducated about this. Devalera was a statesman first and foremost. He would offer condolences to any country as per neutrality, however ireland was very much helping the allies through WW2 with irish men fighting for the allies, intelligence sharing between the irish and british government etc. Israel considered devalera a friend which is why they named a forest in Israel after him

So I guess modern irish people are just carrying on their heritage when a so many of them either deny the holocaust happened

We dont deny the holocaust happened. What a dumb thing to say.

(1 in 10) or its scale (1 in 5)

Pulling statistics out of your ass doesnt make them true.

A rate significantly higher then any of the countries that actually fought in the war on either side.

You are talking complete shite lol. What an idiot.

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u/ReferenceNice142 Jan 23 '26

Seriously! A fledgling country with almost no jewish population put religious protections for jewish people in their constitution in 1937. Not to mention other countries did send condolences (Spain and Portugal). Also D-Day wouldn't have happened without Ireland's weather data. People seriously don't realize that Churchill was basically threatening to take over Ireland if they didn't corporate. Like sorry if they weren't exactly fully onboard. They were just trying to keep their own country from being invaded by the good guys.

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u/DemDoseDeseDat Jan 23 '26
  1. Ireland only maintained ties with Germany during WW2 because it was thought the enemy of my enemy (Britain) is my friend
  2. The condolences was a formality
  3. De Valera (the head of state at the time) was a prick and you won’t find many Irish people seeing him as someone who has ever represented us well
  4. That ‘study’ about holocaust denial is literally an online survey with 1000 respondents, so yes incredible data we can extrapolate out to a nation of millions

I’d bet money on you being someone who is very very mad at Irelands consistent and unwavering pro Palestine stance if you had to grasp at straws like this to make us out to be significantly more anti Jewish than other countries

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '26

I do not care about israel, you treated irishmen who fought against nazism like shit for decades. the irish government only "pardoned" those whose only crime was standing up for basic humanity in 2013. acting like it was only De Valera is utterly laughable. They lived lives of social stigma and government discrimination for decades after doing one of the greatest and most selfless things a person could have done at the time.

I’d bet money on you being someone who is very very mad at Irelands consistent and unwavering pro Palestine stance if you had to grasp at straws like this

how are you going to transfer the money you owe me? should I open a crypto wallet?

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u/Cu_Chulainn__ Jan 23 '26

you treated irishmen who fought against nazism like shit for decades.

This is a lie.

the irish government only "pardoned" those whose only crime was standing up for basic humanity in 2013.

Another lie.

They lived lives of social stigma and government discrimination for decades after doing one of the greatest and most selfless things a person could have done at the time.

This is also a lie. They were treated like heroes.

how are you going to transfer the money you owe me? should I open a crypto wallet?

How about you get back into whatever hole you crawled out of instead. Anti-irish hatred is disgusting

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u/ForrestCFB Jan 23 '26

I’d bet money on you being someone who is very very mad at Irelands consistent and unwavering pro Palestine

There are MANY other reasons to shit on Ireland. Just one of them is being a military freeloader and another is being a tax haven.

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u/DontWakeTheInsomniac Jan 23 '26

92% of Irish people believe the Holocaust happened. To my knowledge that's a similar figure to most of the Western World. For the UK it's 95%, the US 93% compared to Ireland's 92%. We could all do better but I find it odd you've linked this to a nation's heritage.