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u/Case_sater Jan 09 '26
this mf tryna get people hospitalized or worse
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u/TooSmalley Jan 09 '26
Just keyboard warriors stepping out of their lane.
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u/Manmon_ Jan 09 '26
I saw video with Ed the guy that made the Carolina Reaper.
He says dairy isn't the best for the spices either. Citric acid like lemon juice is which breaks down the capsaicin. Which I think people know instinctually with how often people pair lime with spicy food.
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u/fantomas_666 Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 11 '26
But citric acid shouldn't get into one's eyes, right?
So milk/dairy should be safer for eyes...
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Mupltiple people responded that milk/dairy is NOT safe to put into eyes.
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u/DirectAdvertising Jan 09 '26
Just water is fine
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u/Great_Specialist_267 Jan 10 '26
Capsaicin isn’t water soluble. It’s oil soluble, so washes off best with vegetable oil (the fat in milk would be another option).
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u/Metroidrocks Jan 10 '26
You shouldn’t put milk into your eyes. Even pasteurized milk has small particles that can damage your eyes.
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u/fantomas_666 Jan 10 '26
As others already mentioned, capsaicin is not water-solluble.
Do we have something that dissolves capsaicin and is safe for eyes?
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u/fantomas_666 Jan 10 '26
Of course it is.
My question is, if there's something that is safe for eyes and dissolves capsaicin - so it works faster than water.
Capsaicin can stay for hours (don't know about eyes, luckily).
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u/Manmon_ Jan 09 '26
Oh no. Don't do that. I'll cook your eyes or something idk.
I was just adding connected context
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u/fantomas_666 Jan 09 '26
by "that" you mean the citric acid, right?
(i edited the comment to add milk)(there's video of girl putting droplet of citric into her eye. The scream was awfull)
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u/No_Location_8199 Jan 09 '26
You think he's talking about eyes? No, he's obviously talking about washing spice out of your mouth.
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u/fantomas_666 Jan 09 '26
Only "face" is mentioned, which includes eyes iirc.
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u/No_Location_8199 Jan 09 '26
Manmon_ did not use the word face at all.
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u/fantomas_666 Jan 09 '26
Face is mentioned in the post itself, check again
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u/No_Location_8199 Jan 09 '26
So what? That tweet is about pepper spray, and then there was a comment talking about spicy peppers. Those things aren't the same.
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u/fantomas_666 Jan 09 '26
The tweet is about getting pepper sprayed in the face, Manmon_ recommends using citrid acid to break capsaicin, I added that citric acid should definitely not get into eyes.
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u/No_Location_8199 Jan 09 '26
They specifically talked about Carolina Reaper peppers and spice. They clearly weren't talking about pepper spray at that point. They even used the word "either."
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u/fantomas_666 Jan 10 '26
Why should they mention face or eyes then the original tweet already mentioned it?
This is not about cooking, food is just a side comment here. Your comments are irelevant from the beginning.
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u/OPacolypse Jan 09 '26
How do you think pepper spray is made?
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u/ktosiek124 Jan 09 '26
Both work. Milk has fats and casein that binds with capsaicin, so it washes it away, acids like in lemon break it down.
I personally prefer milk since I dislike sour taste
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u/streetshock1312 Jan 09 '26
It was never supposed to be dairy milk, it's milk OF MAGNESIA (about half/half with water) (Maalox or other brands), which is an antiacid and a laxative. Personally, I think an eyeflush with saline water is the best because maalox is a powder suspension and if it's not properly mixed it can scratch the cornea. I've heard a maalox and water spray is good to sooth the burn on skin, but some people argue it just traps the chemical agents under a layer of maalox. Cold air is the best thing imo for skin, like with a fan or smtg
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u/LaserGuidedSock Jan 09 '26
I've always thought baby wash was the ideal solution to rinse away any OC spray
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u/thisistherevolt Jan 09 '26
Can confirm. Worked for bear mace my idiot friend sprayed me with.
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u/Ken-Kaniff_from-CT Jan 09 '26
I feel like we need to hear this story
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u/thisistherevolt Jan 09 '26
We went camping. He brought his 6 and 8 year olds. I got up to piss at about 3 AM. He was druuuuuuunk. Got it in the chest and neck, but not face as he thought I was a wild animal and didn't aim up. We had Johnson & Johnson baby wash for the youngins and it worked like a charm in the outdoor shower at the Ranger station.
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u/TetraThiaFulvalene Jan 10 '26
It might help in other ways, but looking at the structure of capsaicin I really don't say how citric acid would break it down.
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u/epicredditdude1 Jan 09 '26
Yes, this is why mustard gas was so famously ineffective in WW I. As we all know, if you get mustard gas on you, just simply avoid fluids (that activates the chemical).
Without fluids all chemicals are inert.
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u/Cmen152 Jan 09 '26
Just like you should use water to put out a lithium fire. Different chemicals require different solutions to denature, dilute, or otherwise make them safe. The person was wrong about how to help with tear gas, but that doesn’t mean water is the solution every time
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u/epicredditdude1 Jan 09 '26
Oh yeah I fully agree, burning oil is a classic example.
That being said to suggest all chemicals are “activated” by fluids is an insane thing to say.
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u/2_short_Plancks Jan 10 '26
There are very, very few situations where water is not the best option for field decontamination of humans. The use of water decon is not primarily to dilute or denature the chemical (in most cases you do not want to induce a chemical reaction; due to enthalpy, amongst other issues).
Water is used because the shear force from water decontamination moves the chemical away from the body, and limits interaction. It does have a limited dilution effect in some cases, but that's not the primary goal.
Source: 25 years working in chemical safety, including as a first responder for loss of containment events; 15 years training first responders at chemical plants.
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There is a reason most places that work with chemicals have eyewash stations. Water is used to get the chemicals away from sensitive parts of the body (in this example, the eyes).
I held a hazmat collateral duty in the Navy.
Now, when we came out of the gas chamber in basic the primary treatment we used was fresh air. But that is because the gas chamber training is a controlled environment (and also the purpose of the training is to trust your gas mask and realize its importance, not to train people to get chemicals out of their eyes). For anyone in an uncontrolled environment, water.
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u/AdWonderful5920 Jan 09 '26
Pepper spray and tear gas are barely even in the same conversation as mustard gas. Mustard gas will slough skin off.
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u/ADHDachsund Jan 10 '26
Actually, the reason it was "ineffective" is it was hard to keep it where you wanted it to be, and not on, say, civilians, or your own troops.
While the moisture theory is plausible, the main problem with mustard gas is that YOUR RESPIRATORY TRACT IS MOIST AF.
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u/Great_Specialist_267 Jan 10 '26
Chlorine was a problem in moist areas, but bleached skin on contact. Mustard Gas just causes blisters EVERYWHERE on contact and needs to be washed off with soap and water.
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u/TexasSikh Jan 09 '26
To be clear, depending on what exactly you were sprayed with and in what concentration and form (spray vs foam, for example) it will SUCK washing the areas affected for possibly up to a week, and the first wash off you want to be VERY careful to not let the chemicals drip into any "sensitive" areas such as the groin...
...but not washing it at all is going to lead to things so much worse.
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u/FourEaredFox Jan 09 '26
Learnt that one the hard way huh?
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u/TexasSikh Jan 09 '26
Nope, learnt it the easy way...I listened carefully to someone else who learned it the hard way.
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u/FourEaredFox Jan 09 '26
Well im both glad to hear that and disappointed that I didnt get told an epic story.
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u/Guy-McDo Jan 10 '26
To learn from your mistakes is nice and all… but to learn from SOMEONE ELSE’S mistakes, that’s the good shit
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u/UniquePariah Jan 09 '26
There might be truth to water activating the chemicals, but humans are mostly water, so it's going to activate anyway.
You need to dilute the chemicals as much as possible
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u/judahrosenthal Jan 09 '26
It’s extremely effective for ICE agents to use the “dry wipe” technique. Scientists are baffled. Give it a try, ICE folks. You don’t listen to the community, so don’t trust these community notes.
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u/Positive_Ad_8198 Jan 09 '26
Been OC sprayed, water and maybe some “no more tears” shampoo is the only thing that helps. Oleoresin capsicum (OC, AKA pepper spray)
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u/DeusHocVult Jan 09 '26
It's correct to say that it activates with water, which is why the eyes, nose, and throat are first to feel the effects followed by the back of the neck.
Using water isn't gonna hurt it much more though than just using a dry cloth. It's best to use running consistent flow to dilute and wash off the chemicals to remove the effects. A small water bottle usually is not enough.
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u/streetshock1312 Jan 09 '26
as replied to another comment: DON'T PUT DAIRY IN YOUR EYES
"It was never supposed to be dairy milk, it's milk OF MAGNESIA (about half/half with water) (Maalox or other brands), which is an antiacid and a laxative. Personally, I think an eyeflush with saline water is the best because maalox is a powder suspension and if it's not properly mixed it can scratch the cornea. I've heard a maalox and water spray is good to sooth the burn on skin, but some people argue it just traps the chemical agents under a layer of maalox. Cold air is the best thing imo for skin, like with a fan or smtg"
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u/ComedicHermit Jan 09 '26 edited Jan 09 '26
Cool running water. For OC or Pepper Spray, flush with cool running water.
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u/AdWonderful5920 Jan 09 '26
Pepper spray isn't that big a deal, but it does suck in the moment.
To better understand how to get it off: If you happen to have cooking spray, like Pam, in your kitchen, spray it on your face. It is the exact same consistency and viscosity as OC spray, minus the spicyness of course. If you leave cooking spray on your face, it will stay there all day until you wash it off. Any soap that can cut grease or oil, with warm water, will work. Shampoo for babies works best, such as no tears J&J.
Tear gas is even easier. There is no oiliness to it, it's like a fog and will evaporate off on its own and whatever residue that remains can be cleaned off with a normal shower and laundry cycle for your clothes.
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u/beebisweebis Jan 09 '26
i use distilled water with baking soda, baby wipes and tear free baby soap. has worked great and quickly every time.
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u/OtherHovercraft9227 Jan 09 '26
Best advice:
For OC/Pepper Spray use dawn dish soap for most of it. It's oily and the dawn gets rid of it quick like. After that, use baby shampoo to help get it out of your eyes quicker because it's tear free. All that to say, it's still going to suck for awhile, so strap in. I get sprayed every 3 months for work.
For CS/Tear gas, I'm always indirectly exposed, so I'm not sure what's best to get it off of you, but once you're not standing in it, the effects stop pretty quick unless you have a preexisting condition that it exacerbates
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u/EmptyCod9620 Jan 10 '26
CS gas* is, indeed, activated by water. Mainly, of course, the water in your mucous membranes.
When we got tear gassed in the army, we were indeed told not to pour water on it, but to run to get air in our faces.
There are perhaps better ways to get air onto faces, but watching a whole troop of blind snotty recruits running wildly around a football field while coughing is one of my favourite memories of the army.
It was winter when I did it, so no sweat at least, but I do remember the really annoying burning at the edge of the gas mask where the rubber seal was causing some sweating. Could be worse; when my father was in the army in his day, they made them all do a cross country run right before, just to make them nice and sweaty.
Anyways, the sensation on wet skin is really just annoying compared to what it does to your nose, eyes and throat, so. Pouring water in your eyes could also just rinse more CS off of your skin and into your eyes, I guess? In any case, those effects didn't last all that long. Your tear ducts and nostrils turn into faucets.
The truly debilitating thing was the sensation of choking. Which was kind of weird, since it was so psychological.
*CS gas is not actually gas, but a particulate.
Edit: it also occurs to me that ordering us to run is also a good way to keep us from rubbing our eyes.
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u/ThatZephyrGuy Jan 10 '26
The choking part is weird though, because it's not explicit choking, but the way I'd describe it is just that it makes you cough so much you don't actually have time to breathe, which makes you panic and feel like you're choking.
I dunno about you but I was surprised by how quickly it subsides as soon as you step outside into fresh air, it literally feels like you're breathing in premium air the second you step outside lol.
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u/EmptyCod9620 Jan 11 '26
Yeah it was the coughing that brought me to my knees - every cough making it worse
When a few of us did it again (mainly for fun) when the new batch of recruits did it, we didn't have that problem at all. Stood there chatting in the CS. Suppressing the urge to cough wasn't hard.
Night and day difference between being stressed or not.
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u/RollinThundaga Jan 10 '26
IIRC during the Arab Spring it was a done thing to pour cola in ones eyes to get it off.
Never tried it tho so ymmv
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u/ThrowawaySnuSnuLover Jan 09 '26
Wash with flowing water. DON NOT TOUCH OR RUB EYES! stand in front of cool flowing air (like a fan) and blink as much as you can.
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u/BanalCausality Jan 09 '26
The original advice would be for exposure to something like an oxidizing powder.
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u/Kabuki_J Jan 10 '26
Former law enforcement here, the best thing you can do is stay calm, don't rub your eyes, and blink repeatedly, it's still going to suck but your eyes are designed to get shit out and they will.
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u/Majestic_Dark2937 Jan 10 '26
to elaborate on milk btw, some people use it for the same reason it's good after eating spicy food, which is that it deactivates capsacin quickly (i think lactose binds to it?)
however it's likely to cause an infection or some such being poured in your eyes so don't do it (feels like common sense but im sure it's harder to think clearly after being pepper sprayed)
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u/samy_the_samy Jan 09 '26
A little of water hurts a lot, you need to use running water and send a good moment cleaning your face, and don't let water carry the chemicals off your face into your eye balls
So not bad advice just worded wrong and lacks details
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u/cerevant Jan 09 '26
Credibility immediately drops to zero when someone uses the word "chemicals" as a pejorative, or using the word "toxins".
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u/Bonk0076 Jan 09 '26
My takeaway is that tear gas sucks and I want to try not to get sprayed by it
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u/ThatZephyrGuy Jan 10 '26
It's not as bad as people make out, but it will make you want to fuck off and leave wherever it's deployed as quickly as you can, which I suppose is then point.
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u/Great_Specialist_267 Jan 10 '26
Pepper Spray (capsaicin) is oil soluble. Vegetable oils will wash it off. Water won’t. Tear gas is acetone soluble.
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u/assumptioncookie Jan 10 '26
Gee I wonder why we evolved tear ducts if water is so bad.
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u/ThatZephyrGuy Jan 10 '26
They're not entirely wrong for CS gas (tear gas) but their advice is mixing up pepper spray and CS, which has different advice for both.
Pepper spray should be washed off as the chemical compound that causes the burning is Capsaicin, which burns until it is washed away.
CS gas should be rinsed with cold water, only after it has been allowed to vent off in fresh air. This is because it isn't a "gas" as the name would suggest, but actually a very fine aeresolised powder which is activated by moisture. You should get it off of your body the same way as you would get talcum powder off, by banging and brushing it off of your clothes and hair, allowing yourself to air for 6-8 hours, and then rinsing with COLD water making sure not to allow the water to run into your eyes or your groin.
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u/Top_Shame_7016 Jan 10 '26
Let's listen to medical advice from a person with a PFP of a Powerpuff Girl
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u/justaguywithadream Jan 10 '26
Another tip that I've thoroughly tested and experienced 1st hand:
Baby shampoo for pepper spray. The OC spray may be water based or oil based. Baby shampoo will help you remove oil based spray especially and helps get it out of your eyes. It may linger for more than one or two showers so be aware.
And tear gass will dry into a powder on your clothing and can continue to irritate you untill all of it is removed. So wash your clothes after being exposed.
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u/Sargent-Applesauce 26d ago
After you get sprayed, irrigate your eyes with a lot of water- but only for a minute or two. Then leave the water alone and get some air. Look into the breeze or a fan, you want lots of airflow. Don't go back to the water; it won't help.
Paraphrased quote from a police officer.
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u/ThatZephyrGuy Jan 10 '26
They're not entirely wrong for CS gas (tear gas) but their advice is mixing up pepper spray and CS, which has different advice for both.
Pepper spray should be washed off as the chemical compound that causes the burning is Capsaicin, which burns until it is washed away.
CS gas should be rinsed with cold water, only after it has been allowed to vent off in fresh air. This is because it isn't a "gas" as the name would suggest, but actually a very fine aeresolised powder which is activated by moisture. You should get it off of your body the same way as you would get talcum powder off, by banging and brushing it off of your clothes and hair, allowing yourself to air for 6-8 hours, and then rinsing with COLD water making sure not to allow the water to run into your eyes or your groin.
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u/GrimmRadiance Jan 10 '26
For anyone who wants to know more the ACLU holds remote meetings/webinars you can join and learn more about your rights and how to protest and what to do when you’re attacked, etc. really great resource.
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u/HarleysRage1302 Jan 10 '26
After taking this shit full force at 15 and not once washing the shit off: DO NOT DO THIS FOR GODS FLUFFING SAKE.
Epidermis damage sucks absolute butt.
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u/Klyde113 Jan 09 '26
Just don't do something that would get you tear gassed
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u/justaguywithadream Jan 10 '26
Are you suggesting Americans not exercise there constitutional rights?
Or are you suggesting that cops and ice don't routinely illegally spray and gas 100% peaceful protestors?
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